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     Volume 7, Number 18                                 30 April 1990
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                        Table of Contents
     1. ARTICLES  .................................................  1
        EuroCon IV: A General Overview to a Great Happening !  ....  1
        Region17 FidoNet Convention  ..............................  5
        Region17 FidoCon Registration Form  .......................  6
        Violet's Ansi Screens  ....................................  9
        FIDOCON 1990 REGISTRATION FORM  ........................... 11
     2. COLUMNS  .................................................. 14
        Talk Me Through It, Honey  ................................ 14
     3. LATEST VERSIONS  .......................................... 16
        Latest Software Versions  ................................. 16
     4. NOTICES  .................................................. 19
     And more!
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                                 ARTICLES
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     EuroCon IV: A General Overview to a Great Happening !
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     0. Maybe a small introduction ?
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     Msg : 111, 14 Oct 89 21:06:00
     From: Joop Mellaart
     To  : All
     Subj: announcement Eurocon IV
     -------------------------------------
     Hello to you all,

     On behalf of the organisation committee of Eurocon III I herewith
     announce that Belgium will be the organising country for Eurocon
     IV.

     Ward Dossche has sent us a very good proposal which Peter
     Janssens will post here within a few days. [...] we think that
     the Belgian proposal is very good and Eurocon IV should therefore
     be organised in Belgium.

     Regards, <JM>

     --- FD 2.00
      * Origin: PCC Zonegate - Gateway to the Continents! (2:512/99)



     1. ... or maybe a bit clearer ?
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     When I was preparing this article, it crossed my mind, to start
     telling you something about the history of FidoNet. But probably
     most of you would already know all that stuff, so there was the
     chance that you would drop of, just because of boredom. And that
     would be a shame, really, because EuroCon is an occasion, which
     every European FidoNet sysop should have seen at least once !

     EuroCon is a happening which developed itself thru FidoNet-
     history:  Apparently, sometimes echomail is just not good enough
     to keep good contacts between regions, so at a certain point in
     time, it became clear that it would be really nice (if not
     actually necessary), to organise a European Sysop-meeting. In the
     United States, these happenings had already been organised: They
     called it FidoCon.

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     So four years ago, the first European Sysop-meeting, EuroCon,
     was organised.  From then on, it was decided to organise such an
     international meeting yearly.


     2. And this year...
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     This year, Eurocon will be organised in Antwerp, Belgium, on July
     14th and 15th. Antwerp is one of Belgium's biggest ports. The
     historical city is a very convenient conference-city: Many
     suitable hotels, in all price-classes are available, there is an
     International Youth Hostel and a camping place. Since Antwerp is
     an international city, it is very easy for foreigners to find
     their way around: Most touristical, hotel- and other staff are
     multilingual (Dutch, French and English are common; German is not
     unusual).  Furthermore, the city of Antwerp is easily reached by
     car, train and airplane.


     3. But what about the meeting itself ?
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     You're right. Better tell you someting about what's going to
     happen on EuroCon IV. As matter of fact, EuroCon IV will be a bit
     different from the EuroCon's before. This time, there will be 3
     FidoNet conferences going on simultaneously ! The first one is
     USERCON I. This conference will be dedicated entirely to Region
     29 matters (Belgium). It is a meeting between sysops, points and
     users of FidoNet Belgium. It will be open to the general public.
     Obviously, this meeting won't be too interesting to the foreign
     guests. It is merely a practical matter to organise UserCon I
     during EuroCon IV.  The other 2 conferences however will be
     *very* interesting. Let's start with the new one...

     The new one is TECHCON I. It will be a purely technical
     conference on FidoNet matters. Provisions are being made, to
     invite as many as possible developers of P.D., ShareWare or
     commercial software. In particular, people being active in
     developing mailers, terminal programs, BBS software and
     utilities, packers, and whatever else is being used by amateur
     communication freaks. Also manufacturers of comms hardware will
     be invited.
     It will be required to register in advance. You will be informed
     about this in a few weeks, thru the FidoNews magazine, thru some
     echomail channels (e.g. ENET.SYSOP), and also in EMBBS magazine.
     But the main conference of course will be EuroCon IV ...
     (tataaah...)

     EuroCon IV will traditionally be devoted exclusively to the
     phenomenon 'netpolicy'. Netpolicy, is the whole of rules which
     are keeping the net up and operational. Without them,
     communication in FidoNet would be impossible. Some main themes
     that will be discussed are:

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     EEC- and European matters :

     * The private computer-communication market after 1992
     * Changing policy in the great internal market
     * Creation of a European sysop-association
     * Telephone companies and future European approval standards for
       telecommunications hardware
     * Auto-censoring, privacy and ownership of public electronic-mail
       information
     * Developments in Eastern-Europe

     Internal policy matters :

     * Electronic-mail policy
     * Electronic-mail routing
     * Elections
     * Appointing EUROCON-V site
     * Democracy within FidoNet
     * Complaint-procedure

     Technical matters :

     * Fast modems (V32 - PEP - HST)
     * Automated mailer software
     * Technical standards
     * New communication protocols

     I guess you've got a general idea now, about what's going to be
     discussed at EuroCon IV. Clearly EuroCon is a very important
     conference. Because even if an amateur network is technically
     capable of functioning well, it is only thru real human
     communication, agreement and understanding, between the thousands
     of participants, that such a huge network can be maintained.
     And that really needs some agreements. Without them, FidoNet
     would surely collapse.  It is at meetings like EuroCon, that one
     builds the strong structures that have kept FidoNet alive, all
     these years !


     4. Back down to the 'earthly' matters...
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     The programme, which of course can be subject to some minor
     changes, will look like this:

     * Friday July 13th
     - Evening: Arrival most participants.
     - Pre-meeting between the organising committee and the RC's and
       ZC2, to discuss the coming days, set some priorities, and iron-
       out whatever needs to be ironed out.

     * Saturday July 14th
     - Morning: EuroCon session-1
     - Noon: Luch of course !
     - Afternoon: EuroCon session-2
     - Evening: Dinner, and optional '11-kroegentocht', not to be
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       missed by all beer-drinkers ! (Belgium is a country famous for
       its beers !)

     * Sunday July 15th
     - morning: EuroCon session-3
     - noon: lunch
     - afternoon: EuroCon session-4
     - evening: Probabely a dinner-cruise on the River Scheldt for all
       registered participants, sponsors, companies and other people
       that have contributed to the organising of EuroCon-IV.
     - After 10pm: Everybody can seek a form of entertainment suitable
       to his/her own needs.

     * Monday July 15th
     - morning: Check-out and departure of most participants.


     There is also a fringe-programme for participants and relatives.
     Including:
     - Visit to the port of Antwerp.
     - Visit to the famous Antwerp ZOO.
     - Factory-visit.


     5. But, isn't there always one more thing to say ?
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     Yes, there is:
     You can send us your remarks, questions and suggestions. We have
     opened a special node for EuroCon-IV. It has nodenumber
     2:2/999.0, and it is open for mail 24 hours a day. We will be
     happy to get some feedback, so that we can keep your suggestions
     in mind, while setting up the meeting in detail.
     You can address your messages to Ward Dossche, the team-leader of
     the organising team. You can also write Ward or me a message in
     ENET.SYSOP.
     And above all: Be looking out for more information about EuroCon
     IV. In a few weeks, we will start distributing registration
     forms. Don't hesitate to join the conference. Don't put away that
     form somewhere you'll probably forget it.  Without you, it would
     be much less fun ! We count on you ! Try to be there in July !

     Jan Spooren (2:295/20.0)
     Electronic-Press attache (Umpf!)

     P.S.: We just received a message from Tomas Bremin (2:201/110.0),
     moderator of InterUser: He tells us, we can expect a group of 15
     to 30 people from InterUser, who are going to meet eachother at
     EuroCon IV !  Watch my words: It'll be quite a happening !!


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     Janet Murray
     1:105/23

                  REGION 17 FIDO CONVENTION

     FidoNet  Sysops  and  their  families and friends  are  cordially
     invited  to  attend  a  Region17  convention  hosted  by   Net105
     (VanPort;   aka "Home of the Curmudgeon") July 27-29  at  Menucha
     Retreat  and  Conference  Center.   This will be the only  "Fido"
     convention  on  the  West  Coast this summer;  guests outside the
     boundaries of Region17 are more than welcome to attend.

     Menucha was  once  the  summer  home  of Julius Meier, founder of
     Meier & Frank  department stores and a former Governor of Oregon.
     "Menucha" means "waters of  refreshment"  in Hebrew and is an apt
     description of the unique natural  setting  -  98 acres of lawns,
     woodlands and gardens - high on  a bluff overlooking the Columbia
     River.  The main buildings were constructed  around  1914 and are
     historical  sites.    Recreation  includes  a  75x30  ft  outdoor
     swimming pool,  regulation  tennis  court,  basketball, horseshoe
     pits, a surfaced  volleyball  court,  table tennis, and biliards.
     There are also numerous trails for hiking.

     Menucha is located in  Corbett,  Oregon  -  30  minutes  from the
     Portland International Airport and about 45 minutes from downtown
     Portland.  Freeways I-84, I-5, and I-205 are close by.

     Convention prices are extremely affordable if you register before
     May  15th.   Menucha offers dormitories and  family-style  meals,
     with a few semi-private and private accomodations.   For example,
     for  an  adult  FidoNet  Sysop  who  elects to arrive  on  Friday
     afternoon, sleep in his sleeping bag in a dorm, and  stay through
     Sunday  morning,  the  cost  is  a  mere $70.50 (meals included).
     Reduced prices apply to children, students, and spouses.

     See the  subsequent message for an official registration form, or
     NetMail Janet Murray  @  105/23 or Ken Zwaschka @ 105/54 for more
     information.

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     Janet Murray
     1:105/23

       * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
       *              FIDONET REGION 17 CONVENTION                 *
       *               OFFICIAL REGISTRATION FORM                  *
       *                     July 27-29, 1990                      *
       *          Menucha Camp and Conference Grounds              *
       *                     Corbett, Oregon                       *
       * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

     Name _____________________________   FidoNet Address _________

     SnailMail Address ___________________________________________

     ___________________________________________  Date Sent ______

     Voice phone (in case of questions): ________________________

     Please indicate for each person attending, the option selected,
     and fill in the appropriate charges:

     _Number_            _Name(s)_                   _Subtotals_

               Registration fee @ $5
     _____     (FidoNet Sysops ONLY)               $        _____

     OPTION A: Friday 5 p.m. to Sunday 11 a.m.
               DORM
     _____     Adult(s) __________________________ $  65.50 _____

     _____     Student(s) ________________________    56.50 _____
               (Age 12 to 18 OR Full-time student)
     _____     Child(ren) ________________________    36.25 _____
               (Age 11 and under)
     _____     Supply bedding @ $6 per person               _____

               SEMI-PRIVATE
     _____     Adult(s) __________________________    83.50 _____

     _____     Student(s) ________________________    56.50 _____
               (in parents' room)
     _____     Child(ren) ________________________    36.25 _____
               (in parents' room)

               PRIVATE
     _____     Adult(s) __________________________   102.50 _____

     OPTION B: Saturday 8 a.m. to Sunday 11 a.m.
               DORM
     _____     Adult(s) __________________________    48.00 _____

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     _____     Student(s) ________________________    42.50 _____
               (Age 12 to 18 OR Full-time Student)
     _____     Child(ren) ________________________    29.50 _____
               (Age 11 and under)
     _____     Supply bedding @ $6 per person               _____

               SEMI-PRIVATE
     _____     Adult(s) ___________________________   59.00 _____

     _____     Student(s) _________________________   42.50 _____
               (in parents' room)
     _____     Child(ren) _________________________   29.50 _____
               (in parents' room)

               PRIVATE
     _____     Adult(s) ___________________________   72.50 _____

     OPTION C: Saturday 8 a.m. to Saturday 10 p.m.
     (Meals only, no accommodations)

     _____     Adult(s) ___________________________   37.00 _____

     _____     Student(s) _________________________   32.00 _____

     _____     Child(ren) _________________________   21.00 _____

               SUBTOTAL                             $           _____


     LATE REGISTRATION FEES (_after_ May 15th):

     ================================================================
     |     IMPORTANT NOTE: Since we must estimate  _and pay for_    |
     |     the number who will be attending by mid-May, there       |
     |   will be a limited number of places for late registrants!   |
     ================================================================

           Paid by June 15th:
     _____ Number of reservations @ $10     _____

           Paid by July 15th
     _____ Number of reservations @ $20     _____

           Paid after July 15th
     _____ Number of reservations @ $30     _____

                                TOTAL ADDITIONS       $         _____

                                  TOTAL PAYMENT ENCLOSED:       $ _____
     Make checks payable (in U.S. Funds) to:
     Net 105 Treasury / REG17CON

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     Send registration to:

     Region 17 Convention
     c/o Ken Zwaschka
     Ken Zwaschka & Associates
     P.O. Box 2226
     Portland, Oregon, U.S.A. 97208-2226

     Reservations and room assignments will be confirmed via NetMail
     within 48 hours of receipt.

     Registration packets with a map to Menucha and information about
     Portland metropolitan area shopping and recreational faciltities
     will be mailed to all registrants on July 1st.



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            From
        Violet Stymacks
            at the
       Rhinoceros Kitchen
           1:152/8
         Eugene, Oregon

     When Ray (co-sysop of Rhinoceros Kitchen and myself first set-up
     housekeeping together he told me," How much he was INTO
     computers " :-}
     I had NO IDEA just how much time he talking about.
     Well it didn't take long for me to start calling the computer
     THE OTHER WOMAN.God, how I hated the THING.
     Being Dyslexic I would not go near the computer. Then one day he
     downloaded a game called Hack and soon I would sit by his side
     and watch him play(giving my input as to what he should do.):-)
     Then he showed me how to play it myself. This was BEFORE we had
     a Hard Disk. After a while my Characters got soooo big that I
     needed to shuffle 4 floppies to hold them, so I got kind of
     comfortable with the machine. (I won the game 14 times) and Ray
     was very good about letting me share computer time with him.
     Then Ray helped a friend set up a BBS (a game board) next thing
     I knew he was thinking of starting a BBS of his own. I smiled
     and said I thought he should give it a try. But I was thinking "
     now I will never see or be able to talk to him because he will
     be with " HER " (the computer) all the time.
     Well I sure didn't fool Ray one bit with that smile , he sat me
     down with THEDRAW and had me do asci screens for the message
     bases.
     Then a local sysop asked if I would do an ansi welcome screen
     for his board. Next I was making screens for boards all over
     Eugene.
     Then we became a node on FidoNet.I started cruising the node
     list looking for names I liked the sound of and I would make an
     ansi drawing and send it to them.
     I also put a copy in the <<RK>> art gallery. Most people liked
     what I sent to them and used it. An ansi/asci screen from me is
     a GIFT, not the beginning of some advertising "pitch" or
     anything else.
     I send a follow up message asking if they are using the screen,
     if I don't hear from them after a while. If they are not using
     it I " give it a face lift " and send it to some one else. I
     call the screen a " LOGO " but sysops put them anywhere on the
     board they want.I put the "OLD" logo screen some sysops send
     with their thank you message,in a guest art gallery that i have
     on our bbs.About 5 boards have my whole (a zip file of about
     400k) art gallery on their board.

     At this time about 290 BBS are using one or more ansi/asci
     screens I have made. Most are in the USA, thirty are in Canada,
     seven in zone2 and three in zone3 (that I know of). :-)

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     The truly sad part of all this is Ray almost never gets time to
     use the computer anymore.
     :-)

     ----
     a quick note from ray here.I wanted to call this article
     "computer shortage crises at rhinoceros kitchen",but Violet
     wrote it,and after all,it IS about her art work.
      Violet's art gallery is compressed into art.zip during 5:00 am
     maintenance EVERY morning and is available for file requests as
     ART.ZIP anytime,except midnight to 2:00 am Pacific time.The old
     art.zip is deleted just before the new one is made, this way it
     is updated daily.
     ----
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     C. Conference w/ meals....$300.00     $250.00        $200.00
     D. Conference w/ Banquet..$205.00     $155.00        $105.00
     E. Conference only........$175.00     $125.00        $ 75.00
     F. Banquet only...........$130.00      $80.00        $ 30.00
     G. Registrant & Spouse....$720.00     $670.00        $620.00
     (All rate plans except plan F include all conference and hotel
     fees.  Those registering before 5/1/90 get a $100.00 discount,
     those registering before 6/1/90 get a $50.00 discount.)

     You must pay by Check, Money Order, or Credit Card.  Please send
     no cash.  All monies must be in U.S. Funds.  Checks should be
     made out to: "Conclave '90"

     The following registration form must be completed and mailed to:

                         PO Box 12
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     You may register by Netmailing this completed form to 1:1/90 for
     processing.  Rename it to ZNNNXXXX.REG where Z is your Zone
     number, N is your Net number, and X is your Node number.  US Mail
     confirmation is required within 72 hours of electronic filing.

     If you are paying by credit card, please include the required
     information.  For your own security, do not route any message
     with your credit card number on it.  Crash it directly to 1:1/90.

     The official Conclave '90 airline is American Airlines.
     American offers a 5% discount the lowest applicable round-trip
     fare, including 1st class travel, subject to availability of
     inventory.  All fare rules and restrictions apply.  In addition,
     American offers 40% off their round trip unrestricted day coach
     fare.  International travelers qualify for special benefits,
     including complimentary admittance to the Admiral's Club Lounge
     at any American Airlines terminal.  Newark is an American Air-
     lines city with direct flights to most major cities.  When making
     reservations, you must call American's Toll-free reservation
     number at 800-433-1790, and reference Star number 13704F.
     FidoNews 7-18                Page 12                  30 Apr 1990


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     Address: _____________________________  Apt. or Suite: _________

     City: _________________________  State or Province: ____________

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     Zone:Net/Node.Point@Domain: ____________________________________

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     =================================================================
                                  COLUMNS
     =================================================================

     Henry Clark
     124/6120


     Spun Wrong --

     I read about this SpinRite program and thought I might try it
     out because, well, you know I have 6 hard disks between home
     and office machines.  As it turns out, I was led astray, and
     I'll tell you why.

     Reading the shrink wrap at the store, I caught some fine print :
     NOT compatible with Plus hard cards.  OK, 1 down, 5 to go.  I
     buy it and get on to work.  My main system there, the NCR has a
     16-bit SCSI and 320 meg hard disk.  Sorry.  SpinRite thinks it
     sees a CACHE, HA.  2 down, 4 to go.  I start reading the online
     docs.  ERLL on a Compaq portable, NOT supported.  3 down.

     I get it home.  ESDI NOT supported.  4 down.  This leaves the
     old 286 portable, which sports an SDSI ( 5 down ) and a
     Imprimis regular old 80 on a WD MFM controller.  OK, 1 drive
     out of 6.  Be forewarned.

     This brings up another sore point.  That 80 meg drive is really
     84, but I can only get some 72 megs recognized by my BIOS.  It
     seems that the drive type table is the key to this whole mess.
     Compaq is really nasty about the drive types supported, which
     is to their benefit when you want to add some space.  This
     nonsense has to change.

     An interesting note in the SpinRite docs is the 'new SDSI
     drives' which they don't support.  New, my baby's butt.


     Greenleaf Comm Lib --

     I picked up the latest version of this software library and was
     really impressed.  With just 3 functions, OPEN, PUTC and GETC I
     had a finished comm program.  It can get a lot fancier than
     that too.  There's even a single function Send_Ymodem_G.

     I wrote a tiny program that sends a user defined message, waits
     for a timer or a response from the host system, and sends
     another message.  The host system is the cool machine, it is
     switching video signals.  The demo has 6 video disk players,
     and 12 Sony 9 inch color TVs, and my comm program is talking to
     the application, switching the different players ( and a couple
     of internally generated test patterns ) across the TVs.

     FidoNews 7-18                Page 15                  30 Apr 1990


     The marketing guys did OK too, the video disks included
     Indiana, Trek, Rabbit and a really neat computer generated
     video documentary.  I quickly implemented a better transmit
     hold routine because my program kept switching the signals
     during the good scenes.

     Greenleaf got a bad rap because of some weird happenings back in
     the Opus 0.0 development days.  Based upon my recent
     experiences, their products are top notch.


     Oracle Database Echo --

     I have been working with the Oracle database for over a year and
     the SQL language as well.  I noticed that there wasn't an echo
     for these topics.  So I started one, it's called ORA_DBMS.

     Oracle is probably the largest database company, with similar
     software running on dozens of platforms.  If there's one thing
     BAD about their products, it's the documentation and support.
     In fact, it's a nightmare.  Maybe this echo can allow better
     access to other user's, with the subsequent increase in
     information.  Of course, it may become the biggest FLAME forum
     yet.  We shall see.

     In any case, if you're interested in, or are using Oracle, or
     any other SQL based relational database, you are invited to
     pick up ORA_DBMS.  At this time, the echo is distributed
     locally, including myself 1:124/6120 and by our DFW echo mail
     distributor, 1:124/4115.  As this is the first echo I have
     tried to get started, you may know more about proper channels
     to pick it up.


     Ghost in the Machine --

     Well it does look like I got screwed by an early Fidonews
     release mechanism.  ( What do want for nothin', eh ? )  I swear
     I had that last column on 1:1/1 Sunday morning at 01:00.  The
     news archive was created at 11:00 and the news file data is
     midnight Monday.

     So that bit on the Lake Party was delayed a week.  ( You missed
     me, right ? ).  Now you'll have to wait another week for the
     skinny on the Great Event.  I promise some juicy details aired
     in public, Enquirer fashion.


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     =================================================================
                              LATEST VERSIONS
     =================================================================

                          Latest Software Versions

                               MS-DOS Systems
                               --------------

                           Bulletin Board Software
     Name        Version    Name        Version    Name       Version

     Fido            12q+   Phoenix         1.3    TAG          2.5d1
     Lynx           1.30    QuickBBS       2.64*   TBBS           2.1
     Kitten         2.16    RBBS          17.2B    TComm/TCommNet 3.4
     Maximus        1.00    RBBSmail       17.2    TPBoard        6.0
     Opus           1.12+*  RemoteAccess    2.0*   Wildcat!      2.10
     PCBoard        14.2*   SLBBS          1.76*

     Network                Node List              Other
     Mailers     Version    Utilities   Version    Utilities  Version

     BinkleyTerm    2.30    EditNL         4.00    ARC           6.02
     D'Bridge       1.30    MakeNL         2.20    ARCAsim       2.30*
     Dutchie       2.90C    ParseList      1.30    ARCmail        2.0
     FrontDoor     1.99c*   Prune          1.40    ConfMail      4.00
     PRENM          1.47    SysNL          3.01    Crossnet      v1.5*
     SEAdog        4.51b    XlatList       2.90    EMM           2.02
                            XlaxDiff       2.33*   Gmail         2.05
                            XlaxNode       2.33*   GROUP         2.16
                                                   GUS           1.30
                                                   LHARC         1.13
                                                   MSG            4.0
                                                   MSGED         1.99
                                                   PK[UN]ZIP     1.10*
                                                   QM             1.0
                                                   QSORT         4.03
                                                   SLMAIL        1.35*
                                                   StarLink      1.01
                                                   TagMail       2.20
                                                   TCOMMail       2.2
                                                   TMail         1.14*
                                                   TPBNetEd       3.2
                                                   TosScan       1.00*
                                                   UFGATE        1.03
                                                   XRS           3.20*
                                                   ZmailQ        1.10
                                 Macintosh
                                 ---------

     Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

     FidoNews 7-18                Page 17                  30 Apr 1990


     Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

     Red Ryder Host  v2.1b10   Tabby         2.2   MacArc        0.04
     Mansion            7.15   Copernicus   1.0d*  ArcMac         1.3
     WWIV (Mac)          3.0                       StuffIt       1.51
     FBBS               0.91*                      TImport      1.331
                                                   TExport       1.32
                                                   Timestamp      1.6
                                                   Tset           1.3
                                                   Import         3.2
                                                   Export        3.21
                                                   Sundial        3.2
                                                   PreStamp       3.2
                                                   OriginatorII   2.0
                                                   AreaFix        1.6
                                                   Mantissa       3.21
                                                   Zenith         1.5
                                                   UNZIP        1.02b

                                   Amiga
                                   -----

     Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

     Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

     Paragon            2.06+  BinkleyTerm  1.00   AmigArc       0.23
                               TrapDoor     1.50*  AReceipt       1.5*
                               WelMat       0.35   booz          1.01
                                                   ConfMail      1.10
                                                   ChameleonEdit 0.10
                                                   ElectricHerald1.66*
                                                   Lharc         1.10
                                                   MessageFilter 1.52*
                                                   oMMM         1.49b
                                                   ParseLst      1.30
                                                   PkAX          1.00
                                                   PK[UN]ZIP     1.01
                                                   PolyxAmy      2.02*
                                                   RMB           1.30
                                                   TrapList      1.12*
                                                   UNzip         0.86
                                                   Yuck!         1.61*
                                                   Zoo           2.00

                                    Atari ST
                                    --------

     Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailer      Other Utilities

     Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

     FidoNews 7-18                Page 18                  30 Apr 1990


     FIDOdoor/ST        1.5c*  BinkleyTerm 1.03g3  ConfMail      1.00
     Pandora BBS       2.41c   The BOX     1.20    ParseList     1.30
     QuickBBS/ST        0.40                       ARC           6.02*
     GS Point           0.61                       LHARC         0.51
                                                   PKUNZIP       1.10
                                                   MSGED        1.96S
                                                   SRENUM         6.2
                                                   Trenum        0.10
                                                   OMMM          1.40


     + Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
     * Recently changed

     Utility authors:  Please help  keep  this  list  up  to  date  by
     reporting  new  versions  to 1:1/1.  It is not our intent to list
     all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.

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     FidoNews 7-18                Page 19                  30 Apr 1990


     =================================================================
                                  NOTICES
     =================================================================

                          The Interrupt Stack


     26 May 1990
        First anniversary of Net 269, Northern New Jersey

      3 Jun 1990
        Comdex/Spring, which will run from June 3-6 in Atlanta, will be
        held at the World Congress Center and other locations.

      5 Jun 1990
        David Dodell's 33rd Birthday

     12 Jun 1990
        Fifth anniversary of FidoNet's switch to multiple nets.

     14 Jul 1990
        Start of Eurocon / Techcon conference in Antwerp, Belgium.
        Please note that the date has changed: The conferences are
        one day later than originally planned !

     27 Jul 1990
        The beginning of the REGION 17 Convention at Menucha Resort in
        the Columbia Gorge, Oregon.  For details contact Ken Zwaschka,
        1:105/54.

      1 Aug 1990
        Start of FidoCon '90. Contact Bill Vanglahn at 1:1/90 for
        details.

      5 Oct 1990
        21st Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"

      6 Nov 1990
        First anniversary of Van Diepen Automatiseert, 2:500/28

     14 Nov 1990
        Marco Maccaferri's 21rd Birthday. Send greetings to him at
        2:332/16.0

      1 Jan 1991
        Implementation of 7% Goods and Services Tax in Canada. Contact
        Joe Lindstrom at 1:134/55 for a more colorful description.

     16 Feb 1991
        Fifth anniversary of the introduction of Echomail, by Jeff Rush.

     FidoNews 7-18                Page 20                  30 Apr 1990


      7 Oct 1991
        Area code  415  fragments.   Alameda and Contra Costa Counties
        will  begin  using  area  code  510.   This includes  Oakland,
        Concord, Berkeley  and  Hayward.    San  Francisco, San Mateo,
        Marin, parts of  Santa Clara County, and the San Francisco Bay
        Islands will retain area code 415.

      1 Feb 1992
        Area  code 213 fragments.    Western,  coastal,  southern  and
        eastern portions of Los Angeles  County  will begin using area
        code 310.  This includes Los  Angeles  International  Airport,
        West  Los  Angeles,  San  Pedro and Whittier.    Downtown  Los
        Angeles  and  surrounding  communities  (such as Hollywood and
        Montebello) will retain area code 213.


     If you have something which you would like to see on this
     calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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