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FidoNews · Vol 21, No 52 · 27 Dec 2004

     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 21, Number 52             27 Dec 2004 
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            Copyright 2004 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. EDITORIAL  ................................................  2
        Terrorism, Real World vs. Fidonet  ........................  2
     3. BEST OF FIDONET  ..........................................  4
        Dead echoes  ..............................................  4
     4. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ......................................  7
        Fidonet Related Websites  .................................  7
     5. ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................  9
        FIDONet Software References  ..............................  9
     6. SPECIAL INTEREST  ......................................... 14
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 14
     7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 16
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 16
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 18
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     The old believe everything, the middle-aged suspect everything and the
     young know everything.
                                   -- Oscar Wilde


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                                 EDITORIAL
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                      Terrorism, Real World vs. Fidonet

     This week's editorial will probably not fit well into the typical
     Christmas spirit, but, after all, Christmas is over for this year,
     maybe it can serve as a seed for anyone's New Year's Eve resolution?
     After all, the next issue will be published next year -- if I manage
     to make all the necessary changes to all the configs and batchfiles,
     here at Snooze head quarters, that is.


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        Isn't it really strange? So many of us are parents. Many of us have
     kids so old, we can look back at what we did wrong and what we did
     right when raising them, right?

        Yet so many people today seem to have missed how to best handle a
     spoilt kid, kicking and screaming for attention, i.e. simply ignoring
     it until it behaves properly, and *then* give it all the attention it
     wants and needs.

        This, I think, can easily be transferred to the way terrorists
     should be treated. Imagine if all the media of the world agreed not to
     mention any terrorist attacks with as much as one word, no matter
     what. What then? Well, we all know that the terrorists strive for
     attention and publicity. If that is not given to them, what good will
     their actions do to them?

        And now over to the Fidonet terrorists. You know, those that sit
     comfortably behind their keyboards, terrorizing the rest of the
     Fidonet users, trying to get their fifteen minutes of fame by stirring
     up as much mud as possible, with absolutely no concern for anyone else
     but themselves and their own agendas.

        Now, imagine that not a single person would reply to anything those
     Fidonet terrorists write, what then? Well, I leave the conclusion to
     our readers...

        Oh yes, I, for one, know that it can sometimes be very hard not to
     reply, but that's exactly what our terrorists want, so if you don't
     want to play along with them, it's important not to take their bait.
     After all, the terrorists will not listen to reasons, they are only
     out to get the most attention possible.

        And the rest of us know exactly what you think anyway -- there's no
     need to preach to the choir-boys. It's much better to spend your
     valuable time on discussions with all the *good* people in the echo,
     effectively telling the spoilt brats "Hush now, while the grown-ups
     are talking!".

        One area that's extra attractive to terrorists are societies with
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     total freedom. This is, of course, because freedom is a complete
     package, that also includes freedom to act like a jerk. A free society
     simply must rely on everyone acting with responsibility and respect
     for all other persons. There is no other way, unless you settle for
     reduced freedom.

        The same goes, needless to say, for our Fidonet terrorists. Echoes
     with freedom written into the "constitution", the echo rules, are
     popular hunting grounds for them. That's why it's extra important that
     the responsible and cooperative participants take extra care in those
     echoes, not to respond to any terrorist attacks with anything but
     total silence.


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                              BEST OF FIDONET
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                             Dead echoes
                     By Philip Lozier (1:267/169)

      ST> Lastly, I just don't see the point in hubbing or carrying
      ST> echos that haven't
      ST> had traffic in them for a year or longer... It just
      ST> doesn't make sense.

     I'm going to agree with you whole heartedly on that... dead echoes
     present a very, very bad image of the network as a whole. Users
     browsing and finding large numbers of dead weight are presented with a
     picture that FidoNet is useless overall, and potential nodes who run
     BBS's view FidoNet as primarily dead weight that isn't worth the time
     to set up on their systems when many can hook right into QWK networks
     with traffic almost instantly, or some FTN networks, without the
     aggravation, hassles, disputes, and headaches associated with FidoNet.

     It is not a new problem. It has been going on for years, and is -one-
     of the contributing factors to the state Fido is in now... not -the-
     factor, but definitely one of them.

     Arguments go on about who owns echoes... everybody wants to be in
     control in some way or another, even the ones who say things shouldn't
     be controlled.

     How so? The anti-control yellers blat "there should be no control over
     echoes in FidoNet, I will do as I please with my echo"... they don't
     want control from anybody else so -they- can control it.

     Certain mail movers of the past, and present, scream that FidoNet has
     no control over echomail distribution, then set terms for distributing
     echoes such as e-list requirements, and procedures for user/moderator
     disputes, and "agreement" to SLA's so -they- can control it.

     Me, me, me... look at me! I'm a honcho! The network couldn't survive
     without me! *I* make it happen!

     Everybody wants control, and those who want it the most are the ones
     who yell the loudest about non-control.

     What everybody has missed over the years should be real obvious... in
     order for FidoNet to work effectively and in a productive nature, it
     has to operate as a cooperative organization. An organization needs to
     be organized. Being organized means that procedures, guidelines, and
     structure (yup... for those who don't get it... RULES) need to be in
     place. It very much lacks that right now, and this, before ANYTHING
     else, is the primary reason FidoNet is failing and falling by the
     wayside.

     Not the internet causing it... the way FidoNet is mainly being
     distributed now in many areas proves FidoNet works over the internet.

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     Newsgroups, which have also been around forever still generate a whole
     lot of text based traffic, on that same glittery bells and flashing
     lights web hosting system, the same internet being blamed for the
     demise of text based forum style messaging, and believe it or not,
     looking lately I notice that 80 or 90 or so of some 110 or 120 I
     turned on recently just for observation purposes are -NOT- SPAM filled
     hate spewing arenas as newsgroups have so often been portrayed and
     generate GOOD traffic. They're being added for public access on my BBS
     this week. Nope... the internet isn't killing text based forum style
     messaging... it is what is keeping it going in venues outside of
     FidoNet.

     Now... BBS's, networks, and the internet... sorry folks... the
     internet hasn't killed that yet either. I am a regular on several
     internet based BBS's that have active participation, and funny
     thing... some of these carry -multiple- networks of that outdated text
     style forum based messaging, and they in some ways put FidoNet to
     shame. How? Well... first of all, they don't have hundreds upon
     hundreds of echoes taking up space and straining the eyes of users
     trying to find areas of interest... WYSIWYG... you choose an area, and
     guess what? Is it possible? Yup... you actually see current messages
     on the topic mentioned in the description lines. You don't see people
     arguing about policy, voting, and who owns areas and the like, because
     from what I've seen some of these other networks there is no voting,
     the network determines what echoes are distributed under their network
     name, and the governing body is who puts them into place and
     distributes them. Policy is unchangable other than b y those who
     formed and are in charge of the network, and you follow the rules or
     are gone.

     In my opinion, some of these other nets I have seen are much more
     attractive and successful than FidoNet is now... even with their small
     list of areas and tiny nodelists compared to FidoNets counterparts,
     they are organized neatly and present an image that doesn't make the
     public run for the hills, or another network, to participate in, and
     the areas they -do- carry have traffic... AND... (is *THIS* possible?)
     they have "USERS" posting in areas! Holy cow! Is that still possible?

     I notice more and more BBS's carrying multiple networks, but
     absolutely no FidoNet, and have asked some SysOps about joining...
     from the tone of some of the responses I've gotten I can almost
     picture the looks of horror that went onto their faces the second they
     saw the word "fidonet" typed in on their system. FidoNet currently has
     a very, very bad reputation, and is avoided like the plague by a lot
     of BBS SysOps.

     Personally, I look forward to the day when the nodelist has shrunk to
     a point that only those serious about wanting to have FidoNet remain
     operational, and successful once again, remain. It is then that the
     listing of echoes will be reduced to a realistic point, traffic wise,
     and proportional to the number of nodes and the traffic they produce,
     and it is then that the serious minded can develop operational
     standards that are beneficial to "the network" as a whole, rather than
     the personal, political, or social beliefs of individuals factoring in
     an area (operating a viable network) that such beliefs and opinions
     have no place influencing. The productive and continuing operation of
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     the network outweighs the social opinions of the members.

     People (nodes) try to approach FidoNet as if it were a country, league
     of nations, or some other form of social structure. The only "social"
     aspect of FidoNet is the interaction in the echoes. Social issues do
     not belong on the background operational level. The issues at the
     level of how the network operates and what makes it successful in its
     presentation and attractiveness to users should be based purely upon
     what is best for the network itself, not what social practices outside
     of the network are.

     There is more I really want to say, but I've gone on enough about this
     for now... I guess its time to start writing some of those articles I
     had ideas about. To some, they may find whats been on my mind
     interesting... to others, they will "love" me even more than they do
     now ;> I am sure that publicly it will be those who will have ever
     growing "love" for me that will be spewing their nonsense that has
     nothing to do with beneficial operations of the network as a whole,
     and the others who I will be getting the more reasonable netmails I
     have become familiar with on some of my thoughts... the second group
     are the smart ones! They talk to me in netmail about some concepts,
     shielded from the comments of idiots who are too blind to understand
     the obvious, and where ideas can be exchanged reasonably about the
     path that needs to be pursued.

     Phil


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                            FIDONET BY INTERNET
     =================================================================

     Fidonet Related Websites
     Thom LaCosta
     1:261/1352

     One approach to tracking and viewing Fidonet related websites is to
     visit webrings that specialize in Fidonet.

     A webring is a method where sites having a common theme advertise
     other websites with simailar themes.  The advantage to the webring
     concept is that in theory, the sites have an interest in maintaining
     an accuate listing and can modify their own listings on a site by site
     basis.

     It appears that there are two fidonet webrings....the long-running
     system at http://b.webring.com/hub?ring=fidonet and another at
     http://www.fidonet.us/fidoring/

     The ring at webring.com is larger, but forces the viewer to look at
     google ads panels. The smaller ring at fidonet.us does not depend on
     adverstising revenue from ads.

     Sysops with Fidonet related websites should consider joining one or
     both rings.

     Ring News
     It's a pleasure to welcome two new BBS systems to the
     fidonet.us webring:

     Pucela BBS (Valladolid, Spain) Sysop: Komunero
     The Realm of Darkness BBS  Sysop: Ken Bowley

     The most current version of the list below can be viewed at
     http://www.fidonet.us/fidoring/sitelist.html

     WWW.FIDONET.US - WEBRING PARTICIPANTS

     BBBS Charlotte and N4RPS.net Home Page
     Web Page of N4RPS, Rob Sargeant, and Web portal for BBBS Charlotte,
     a Fidonet BBS located in Charlotte, North Carolina USA (1:379/2).
     http://www.n4rps.net -  6-November-2003

     Fidonet - Net261 - Maryland
     Fidonet in Maryland - Net261
     http://www.fidonet.us/net261/ - 2-March-2003

     Rocasa BBS
     Rocasa BBS is a system accessible as both a traditional Bulletin
     Board System, via landline or telnet, as well as via the Web for
     message and file access. It is also the home of the BBBS FDN.
     http://bbs.rocasa.org - 16-June-2003

     <<Prism BBS
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     Hq of the IFDC FileGate and the Programmers Distribution Network.
     <<Prism has been online since 1989.
     http://www.filegate.net:8080  - 11-February-2003

     Fidonet.us
     The Fidonet Site for all sysops.
     http://www.fidonet.us - 10-February-2003

     The Realm of Darkness BBS
     A Linux based BBS running in Phoenix, AZ
     http://www.trod.org/trod.html - 3-December-2004

     Pucela BBS (Valladolid, Spain)
     BBS located in Spain. The web has a lot of information about BBS's
     and FidoNet in Spain, Argentina, Mexico, ... FidoNet: 2:341/201.
     Language: Spanish.
     http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/pucelabbs.htm  - 18-November-2004

     FTN Gate
     Fidonet related site; including especially DNS hosting for
     z1.fidonet.net domains.
     http://www.ftngate.net - 18-September-2004

     Fidonet Region 13
     Home page for Fidonet Region 13.
     http://www.fidonet.us/region13/ - 20-August-2004

     FidoNet Primer
     An introduction to FidoNet: what it is, how it works
     http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html - 11-February-2003

     RuneKeep BBS
     A great place for new sysops to learn about BBSing and getting help
     setting things up. A friendly place for people to Play Onlines Games,
     Chat, and participate in International Message Forums.
     http://runekeep.darktech.org - 10-February-2003

     The Elflords' Home
     Where the FidoMob meets to exercise it's mysterious control over
     Zone 1
     http://www.elflords.net/ - 2-March-2003

     Fidonet Parody
     FidoNet - An Unofficial Page where truth is stranger than fiction,
     and humor abounds when the Emperor Has No Clothes.
     http://www.fidonet.ro/ - 2-March-2003

     Chowdanet BBS
     Chowdanet offers mail from several nets, games and a large files base.
     Dial up and telnet access.
     http://www.chowdanet.com - 11-February-2003

     Thom
     1:261/1352

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                 ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
     =================================================================

                    -=:{ FIDONet Software Reference }:=-

         Type: M=Mailer  T=Tosser  B=BBS  D=Door  C=Comm/Terminal
               P=Points  E=Editor  I=Internet  U=Utility  ?=Info

     .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -.
     |Software: Author     |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes      Help Node|
     `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -'

      Argus                |MI   |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/  2:469/84
                           |     | argus@ritlabs.com  Tel: 373-2-246889
                           |     | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001

      BinkleyTerm XE       |M    |http://btxe.sourceforge.net     1:1/102
                           |     | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998

      BinkD                |MI   |http://2f.ru/binkd/
                           |     | maloff@corbina.net
                           |     | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 (Outdated)

      FIDO-Deluxe IP       |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280
       Michael Haase       |     | m.haase@gmx.net
                           |     | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003

      FrontDoor, FD/APX:   |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se          2:201/330
       Definite Solutions  |     | sales@defsol.se                1:1/101
                           |     | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX

      Husky Project        |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/
                           |     | v1.4 RC2 on Sep 22nd 2003

      Radius               |MI   |http://radius.pp.ru           2:5012/38
      (based on Argus)     |     | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463
                           |     | v4.009 on Jan 2nd 2003

      Taurus               |MI   |http://taurus.rinet.ru        2:461/701
      (based on Radius)    |     | E-mail: taurus@rinet.ru
                           |     | v5.000 alpha on Oct 11th 2004

      Tmail                |MI   |http://www.tmail.spb.ru  v2608
                           |     | Website is in Russian only

      WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
       Net Server, Platinum|     | sales@santronics.com
       Xpress: Santronics  |     | Tel: (305) 248-3204
       Software, Inc.      |     | AUP 451.1 on April 26th 2004
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      Fidogate             |TUI  |http://www.fidogate.org
                           |     | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net  v4.4.10

      FMail                |T    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org
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                           |     | support@fmail.nl.eu.org  v1.60

      JetMail: JetSys      |TU   |http://www.jetsys.de  js@jetsys.de
       (ATARI ST only)     |     | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000

      Squish               |T    |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
                           |     | Lanuis site redirects to above
                           |     | Squish is part of Maximus.

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      BBBS                 |BI   |http://www.bbbs.net  b@bbbs.net
                           |     | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999      2:22/222

      ELEBBS: The Elevator |B    |http://www.elebbs.com
       Software Production |     | elebbs@elebbs.com
                           |     | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002

      EZYCom BBS           |BT   |http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~dcbbs/
                           |     | pjs@optushome.com.au         3:633/104
                           |     | v2.0 on 3 May 2003

      Hermes II Project    |B    |http://www.hermesii.org
                           |     | info@HermesII.org  v3.5.9 Beta Final

      Maximus BBS          |B    |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
                           |     | v3.03

      MBSE BBS:            |BI   |http://mbse.sourceforge.net  2:280/2802
       Michiel Broek       |     | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
                           |     | v0.60.0 on June 5th 2004

      Mystic BBS           |B    |http://www.mysticbbs.com
                           |     | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001

      Nexus BBS            |B    |http://www.nexusbbs.net
                           |     | groberts@nexusbbs.net
                           |     | v0.99.41-Beta on Oct 16th 2002
                           |     | [Note: No Longer under active
                           |     |  development.]

      Proboard BBS         |B    |http://www.proboard.be
                           |     | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002

      RemoteAccess BBS:    |B    |http://www.rapro.com            1:1/120
       Bruce Morse         |     | bfmorse@rapro.com
                           |     | v2.62.2SW

      Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B    |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
       Creek Software      |     | MDWoltz@aol.com                1:1/150
                           |     | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999

      Synchronet BBS       |BT   |http://www.synchro.net
                           |     | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
                           |     | v3.10L Beta

     FIDONEWS 21-52               Page 11                  27 Dec 2004


      Telegard BBS         |B    |http://www.telegard.net
                           |     | support@telegard.net
                           |     | v3.09g2 SP4
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      Atlantis Software    |D    |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/
                           |     | Last Update: August 2004

      Cheepware            |DU   |http://cheepware.midnightshour.org
       Sean Dennis         |     | hausmaus@midnightshour.org    1:18/200

      DDS (Doorware        |D    |http://www.doorgames.org     1:2404/201
       Distribution System)|     | ruth@doorgames.org
       Ruth Argust         |     |

      DoorMUD              |D    |http://doormud.com
                           |     | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002
                           |     | Website is down after
                           |     | past the splash page.

      Jibben Software      |D    |http://www.jibbensoftware.com
                           |     | scott@jibben.com
                           |     | 1995-99 Release dates

      John Dailey Software |D    |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com
                           |     | support@johndaileysoftware.com

      Shining Star         |D    |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
                           |     | nannette@shiningstar.net

      Sunrise Doors:       |D    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
       Al Lawrence         |     | al@sunrisedoors.com
                           |     | Tel: (404) 256-9518

      The Brainex System   |D    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
                           |     | stanley@brainex.com  1994-99 Releases

      Trade Wars           |D    |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
                           |     | jpritch@eisonline.com
                           |     | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002

      Vagabond Software:   |D    |http://www.vbsoft.org        1:124/7013
       Bryan Turner        |     | vagabond@vbsoft.org
                           |     | last update: Jul 17th 2002

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      APoint               |PI   |http://www.apoint-mail.de
                           |     |http://www.apoint-mail.de/indexe.htm
                           |     | (English Version)
                           |     | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de
                           |     | v1.25                   2:2426/1210.13

      CrossPoint (XP)      |P    |http://www.crosspoint.de (German Only)
                           |     | pm@crosspoint.de  v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999

     FIDONEWS 21-52               Page 12                  27 Dec 2004


      FreeXP               |P    |http://www.freexp.de         2:2433/460
                           |     | support@freexp.de
                           |     | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot)

      OpenXP/32            |PI   |http://www.openxp.com        2:248/2004
                           |     |  (Site is in German Only)
                           |     | mk@openxp.de  v3.8.15 Beta Feb 10th 2004
                           |     | Download Page comes back 404 not found.

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      GoldEd+              |E    |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/   2:203/6600
                           |     | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003

      SqEd32               |E    |http://www.sqed.de
                           |     | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999

      TimEd                |E    |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet
                           |     | mail@ozzmosis.com            /timed
                           |     | v1.11.a5 in March 2003      3:633/267

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      GiGo                 |UI   |http://www.gigo.com
                           |     | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997

      Internet Rex:        |UI   |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
       Charles Cruden      |     | telnet://xanadubbs.ca       1:342/806
       (Khan Software)     |     | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001

      TransNet             |UI   |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
                           |     | transnet@ressl.com.ar
                           |     | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998

      TransX: Multiboard   |UI   |http://www.start.ca/software/multiboard
       Communications, Inc.|     | Unsure about support now but Free Keys
                           |     | are now available.  Donations accepted.
                           |     | v3.5 (Note: KeyGen is a Windows Program)

      Ifmail               |UI   |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net
                           |     | crosser@average.org         2:5020/230
                           |     | Ifmail is a FTN <-> E-Mail/News Gateway
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      Meltdown-BBS         |UI   |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/
                           |     | meltdown-bbs.project.petkan
                           |     |                       @spamgourmet.com
                           |     | Fido:                       2:350/5
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                             SPECIAL INTEREST
     =================================================================

                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.359
                size  828.0kb
                date  2004-12-24

      The nodelist has   6859 nodes in it
        and a total of   9496 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           47 regions
                          384 hosts
                          488 hubs
         admin overhead   925 ( 13.49 %)

                    and  1110 private nodes
                          261 nodes down
                          341 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1712 ( 24.96 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    605 (  8.82 %)
                9600 =   5893 ( 85.92 %)
                              (HST  =  120 or   2.04 %)
                              (CSP  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (PEP  =    1 or   0.02 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.02 %)
                              (V32  = 3076 or  52.20 %)
                              (V32B =  264 or   4.48 %)
                              (V34  = 4026 or  68.32 %)
                              (V42  = 3381 or  57.37 %)
                              (V42B =  263 or   4.46 %)
                2400 =     55 (  0.80 %)
                1200 =      8 (  0.12 %)
                 300 =    298 (  4.34 %)

                ISDN =    546 (  7.96 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             2245
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
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      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 9
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                        8
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          6
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      41
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     280
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                3063
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1207
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   2117 ( 30.86 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   3844 ( 56.04 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    534 (  7.79 %)
      Other             =    364 (  5.31 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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