FidoNews · Vol 28, No 14 · 04 Apr 2011
The F I D O N E W S Volume 28, Number 14 04 Apr 2011
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Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2
SIMPL .................................................... 2
3. FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ...................... 5
FidoNet Software References .............................. 5
4. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 10
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 10
5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 12
How to Submit an Article ................................. 12
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 14
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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Any country that has sexual censorship will eventually have
political censorship.
-- Kenneth Tynan, British author, 1927-1980
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GENERAL ARTICLES
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SIMPL
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555
Nine months ago I wrote about my experience with FON over the past
four years. I was not very positive, but thanks to our fellow sysop
Steven Leeman, it got the attention of FON. To my surprise they
offered me a free sample of their latest wireless router, the Fonera
SIMPL. Not for writing such positive articles about FON, but for being
such a loyal and persistent contributor. My FON spot has been on-line
for almost five years now and they appriciate that.
So having the Fonera SIMPL for free, it is only fair that I write down
what I think of it.
The Fonera SIMPL arrived about a month ago and so I took down the
Linksys that had been quitly humming in the attic for almost five
years and replaced it with the Fonera SIMPL. The Linksys has been
reflashed with a version of OpenWrt that supports IPv6 and it is now
hanging in the meter closet, functioning as my main router. Both have
been humming away quitly for almost a month now without any need for
a reset.
So let me give you a list of my findings of what I liked and what I
did not like about the Fonera SIMPL:
What I liked:
o The name is appropriate. It is basically a somewhat stripped down
version of the Fonera plus. It has a WAN and a LAN port. The radio
section supports 802.11n. What is stripped down is the firmware.
Only the basic function are present.
o The antenna is removable. So connecting an external antenna - a
7dBi omni in my case - is no problem.
o Power consumption is low. A simple small switched adapter suffices
to power it and it stays cool. A vast improvement over some of its
power hungry predecessors that suffered from overheating problems.
Summer is yet to come, but I expect no overheating problems with
the SIMPL.
o It is stable. Contrary to some of its predecessors this Fonera is
stable. I installed it a month ago and more or less forgot it.
Every once in a while I check if it is still on air, but as it
always is, the intervals get larger and my confidence that no
resets are needed increase.
What I did not like: (With suggestions for improvement)
o There is no obvious may to screw it to a wall. It has rubber feet,
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so it makes no scratches on your desk, but I prefer routers and
switches not to clog my desk, I want to screw then to a wall. So I
made a very simple holder that I folded from sheet aluminium. A
suggestion for FON might be to have such a holder made out of
plastic. When mass produced, it should not have to cost more than a
few cents, so adding it as a free extra would not make FON go
broke.
o No IPv6. I really think that, now that IANA has depleted its free
pool of IPv4 addresses and APNIC is expected to quasi deplete
before the end of this month, any network equipment that is not at
least IPv6 ready, deserves to end up as ramsh. Already two years
ago I decided I would not buy any new network equipment that does
not support IPv6. Well... I did not buy my Fonera SIMPL...
o No bridge mode for the private signal. I wonder why FON is so hard
headed about this. Users have been asking for this feature from the
very first Fonera, but FON turns a deaf ear on them. The beauty of
the Fonera SIMPL is in its simplicity. The flip side of that
simplicity is that for many, it is not powerful enough to serve as
their main router. So they put it behind a NAT and use it as a
wireless access point only. No big problem for the public signal,
but the private signal is next to useless in this mode. The machines
on the private signal are isolated by a firewall from the machines
on the main LAN and that is not what most users need. It does not
bother me much, as I do not use the private signal anyway. When I
need WiFi for myself, I use the signal from the old Linksys. It
gives me full access to my LAN and it does so using IPv6 too!
o The SSID of the public signal can not be changed. It is set to
FON_FREE_INTERNET and that is it. I do not like it. First: it is
misleading. It is NOT free. Yes, the services of some of FON's
sponsors as Gmail and some others are free and you can get a 10
minute trial period by clicking on some advertisement, but to
obtain full internet access, you either need to pay or be a Fonero
that has his own FON spot up and running at home. Calling that
"free internet" is misleading. Plus of course that I simply want to
advertise my FON spot as something more than jus a FON spot. I want
the SSID to reflect the fact that is is MY FON spot. A restaurant
owner or any other bussines using a FON spot to attract customers,
would want that even more.
o No personalisation of the landing page. The older Foneras offered
the options of doing some (minor IMHO) personalisation to the
landing page. With the SIMPL this is totally absent. Pity. My
provider blocks port 25 outgoing, except to access their own SMTP
server. With previous setups I added a small text to the landing
page telling my users what SMTP server to use if they wished to
send e-mail via SMTP. With the Fonera SIMPL this is no longer
possible. Standard landing page only.
o The internal web interface is only accessible via the LAN port.
Good for security, but a bit akward for those who have made no
compromise on range, do not use the LAN port and who placed their
Fonera in a less accessible place as an attic or a radio tower.
Having the option of accessing the web interface via the WAN port
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would be nice. OTOH, there is not much to configure that needs
frequent changing, so it is not a big deal.
o No SSH or Telnet access. Not a big deal either.
Summary:
The Fonera SIMPL serves its purpose well for those who expect no more
than the name suggests. For use as just a FON hot spot, it is almost
all that one could want. It is stable, it is undemanding on energy, it
is not saddled with unneeded whistles and bells.
I have to admit, I like it more than I expected. It has a its
shortcomings, but for what I use it for: just a FON access point, it
is better suited than all the other Foneras that I had the pleasure to
test.
April 2011, Michiel van der Vlist
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FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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-=:{ FidoNet Software Reference }:=-
Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal
P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info
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|Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node|
`- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -'
Argus |MI |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84
| | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889
| | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001
BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102
| | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998
BinkD |MI |http://binkd.grumbler.org/ 2:463/69
| | v0.9.10 on Oct 2nd 2008
FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280
Michael Haase | | m.haase@gmx.net
| | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003
FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330
Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101
| | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX
Husky Project |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/
| | v1.4 RC5 on Apr 24th 2006
Radius |MI |http://radius.pp.ru 2:5012/38
(based on Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463
| | Last Release: v4.010 on Jan 3nd 2005
Taurus |MI |http://taurus.rinet.ru (Russian) 2:461/70
| |http://www.fidotel.com/taurus (English)
(based on Radius) | | E-mail: taurus@rinet.ru
| | v5.000 alpha on Oct 11th 2004
Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608
| | Website is in Russian only
WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com
Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204
Software, Inc. | | AUP 451.1 on April 26th 2004
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Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org
| | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.10
FMail |T |http://fmail.nl.eu.org
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| | support@fmail.nl.eu.org v1.60
JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de
(ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000
Squish |T |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
| | Lanuis site redirects to above
| | Squish is part of Maximus.
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BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net
| | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222
ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com
Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com
| | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002
Ezycom BBS |BT |http://www.ezycom-bbs.com
| | ezycom@amnet.net.au or
| | ezycom_hq@ezycom-bbs.com 3:690/682
| | v2.15g2 on 16 Nov 2009
Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org
| | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final
Maximus BBS |B |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
| | v3.03
| |Archives back online at:
| |http://maximus.outpostbbs.net/
MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802
Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
| | v0.60.0 on June 5th 2004
Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com
| | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001
Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net
| | groberts@nexusbbs.net
| | v0.99.41-Beta on Oct 16th 2002
| | [Note: No Longer under active
| | development.]
Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be
| | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002
RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120
Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com
| | v2.62.2SW
Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150
| | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999
Synchronet BBS |BT |http://www.synchro.net
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| | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
| | v3.10L Beta
Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net
| | support@telegard.net
| | v3.09g2 SP4
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Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/
| | Last Update: August 2004
Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net
Sean Dennis | | sean@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200
DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201
Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org
Ruth Argust | |
DoorMUD |D |http://doormud.com
| | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002
| | Website is down after
| | past the splash page.
Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com
| | scott@jibben.com
| | 1995-99 Release dates
John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com
| | support@johndaileysoftware.com
Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
| | nannette@shiningstar.net
Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com
| | Tel: (404) 256-9518
The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
| | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases
Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
| | jpritch@eisonline.com
| | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002
Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013
Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org
| | last update: Jul 17th 2002
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APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de 2:2426/1210.13
| |http://www.apoint-mail.de/indexe.htm
| | (English Version)
| | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de
| | v1.25
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CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de (German Only)
| | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999
FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de 2:2433/460
| | support@freexp.de
| | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot)
OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004
| | (Site is in German Only)
| | mk@openxp.de v3.8.15 Beta Feb 10th 2004
| | Download Page comes back 404 not found.
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GoldEd+ |E |http://golded-plus.sourceforge.net/
| | 2:5080/102
| | stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net
| | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003
SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de
| | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999
TimEd |E |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet
| | mail@ozzmosis.com /timed
| | v1.11.a5 in March 2003 3:633/267
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FidoIP |MTPEIU|http://sourceforge.net/projects/fidoip
| | Maxim Sokolsky 2:5020/828.777
| | v.0.5_1 on Jan 11 2010
GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com
| | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997
Ifmail |UI |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net
| | crosser@average.org 2:5020/230
| | Ifmail is a FTN <-> E-Mail/News Gateway
| | Program.
Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806
(Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001
MakeNL |U | http://hub2000.darktech.org/makenl
| | fidonet.hub2000 [at] gmail [dot] com
| | Fido: 1:229/2000
| | FidoNet Nodelist Processor
Meltdown-BBS |UI |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/
| | meltdown-bbs.project.petkan
| | @spamgourmet.com
| | Fido: 2:350/5
| | Meltdown-BBS is an FTN <->
| | Web/PHP/MySQL BBS forum system.
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RNtrack |U |http://sourceforge.net/projects/ftrack-as
| |2:5080/102
| |stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net
| | v1.1.4 Snapshot on Oct 09 2009
TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
| | transnet@ressl.com.ar
| | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998
TransX: Multiboard |UI |http://www.start.ca/software/multiboard
Communications, Inc.| | Unsure about support now but Free Keys
| | are now available. Donations accepted.
| | v3.5 (Note: KeyGen is a Windows Program)
Turquoise SuperStat |U |http://www.softwolves.pp.se/sw/
| | software/turquoise
| | peter@softwolves.pp.se
| | Version: 3.0 on 2008-01-21
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National BBS List |? | http://www.usbbs.org
Hispanic FIDO/BBS's |? | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/
(in Spanish only) | | (Extensive software & BBS Listings)
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File Archives:
http://archives.thebbs.org http://www.filegate.net
http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org http://www.juge.com
http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/ http://garbo.uwasa.fi
http://www.simtel.net http://wuarchive.wustl.edu
http://www.bbsfiles.com http://hobbes.nmsu.edu
Note: most also provide FTP access
(use ftp:// instead of http:// above)
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Please send corrections & additions to: Fidonews Editor
Emeritus: Robert Couture, Ben Ritchey, Todd Cochrane,
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Nodelist Stats
Input nodelist nodelist.091
size 389.1kb
date 2011-04-01
The nodelist has 2858 nodes in it
and a total of 4094 non-comment entries
including 5 zones
37 regions
250 hosts
232 hubs
admin overhead 524 ( 18.33 %)
and 350 private nodes
194 nodes down
168 nodes on hold
off line overhead 712 ( 24.91 %)
Speed summary:
>9600 = 248 ( 8.68 %)
9600 = 1876 ( 65.64 %)
(HST = 28 or 1.49 %)
(CSP = 0 or 0.00 %)
(PEP = 1 or 0.05 %)
(MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
(HAY = 1 or 0.05 %)
(V32 = 904 or 48.19 %)
(V32B = 77 or 4.10 %)
(V34 = 1284 or 68.44 %)
(V42 = 1073 or 57.20 %)
(V42B = 81 or 4.32 %)
2400 = 15 ( 0.52 %)
1200 = 2 ( 0.07 %)
300 = 717 ( 25.09 %)
ISDN = 234 ( 8.19 %)
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File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems
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XA Frontdoor <1.99b 874
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
Xenia
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XB Binkleyterm 2.0 3
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 1
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XP Seadog 0
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XR Opus 1.03 16
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XW Fido >12M 91
Tabby
KittenMail
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 912
Frontdoor 1.99b
Intermail 2.01
T-Mail
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None QMM 961
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CrashMail capable = 1385 ( 48.46 %)
MailOnly nodes = 1440 ( 50.38 %)
Listed-only nodes = 224 ( 7.84 %)
Other = -191 ( -6.68 %)
[Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm]
[ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]
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