FidoNews · Vol 29, No 7 · 13 Feb 2012
The F I D O N E W S Volume 29, Number 07 13 Feb 2012
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Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2
Measuring the InterNet, Sam Knows ........................ 2
3. EDITOR'S CORNER .......................................... 5
The First PC ............................................. 5
4. FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ...................... 6
FidoNet Software References .............................. 6
5. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 11
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 11
6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 13
How to Submit an Article ................................. 13
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 15
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious;
it is the source of all true art and science.
-- Albert Einstein
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GENERAL ARTICLES
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Measuring the InterNet, Sam Knows.
By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555
Presently I am involved in two projects that attempt to chart global
internet performance. I am involved because these projects make use of
volunteers and I stepped forward. These projects are the SamKnows
project initiated and sponsored by the European Commission and the
RIPE Atlas project initiated and funded by RIPE-NCC.
Both project use special hardware installed at the user's premises.
For the SamKnows project it is a so called white box that acts as a
five port switch. It is a modified T-Link wireless router. The RIPE
Atlas project uses a "probe" that has to be plugged in a spare port on
a switch in the user's LAN.
The Samknows white box has been running for about a week now, the RIPE
Atlas probe for just two days, so I will write about that next week.
This week's article will be dedicated to SamKnows.
http://www.samknows.eu
The goal of the project is to collect data about broadband performance
across Europe. The aim is to have over 10.000 whiteboxes installed.
The project runs for two years. If you jump in, you have to agree to
keep the Whitebox running 24/7 for the duration of the project or
return it. At the end of the project you may keep the hardware and do
with it whatever you like.
If you sign up, you are asked to agree to the terms and when you do,
you will usually receive a confirmation within a day or so. If your
request is honoured, you will get the whitebox in about ten days.
Installation is easy. Just put it between your main router and the
wired equipment in your LAN. When the whitebox is running it will
"phone home" and start running tests. You will get an e-mail with a
user name and password to login to the web page where you can see the
test results.
The whitebox monitors your LAN for activity. It does not spy on you,
it just detects activity in order to avoid running tests when your
inernet connection is busy. It is not a wireless access point. The
radio part is only used to detect if there is WiFi activity on your
LAN's subnet, again to avoid running tests when your internet
connection is busy.
SamKnows claims it is not monitoring you. If you do not believe it, it
is an open source project. You can have a look at the source.
The SamKnows Whitebox currently performs the following tests:
1 Multi-threaded HTTP download speed test
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2 Multi-threaded HTTP based upload speed test
3 Availability of the connection
4 Jitter
5 Latency (both ICMP and UDP)
6 Packet loss (both ICMP and UDP)
7 DNS query resolution time
8 DNS query failure rate
9 Web page loading time
10 Web page loading failure rate
11 Video streaming performance
These are the results of the downstream test for a 3 day period:
The speeds are in Mbps.
Date Min Max Ave #test
2012-02-09 21:00:00 9.49 9.49 9.49 1
2012-02-09 20:00:00 9.47 9.47 9.47 1
2012-02-09 19:00:00 9.49 9.49 9.49 1
2012-02-09 15:00:00 9.49 9.49 9.49 1
2012-02-09 09:00:00 9.54 9.54 9.54 1
2012-02-09 03:00:00 10.21 10.21 10.21 1
2012-02-09 00:00:00 9.51 9.51 9.51 1
2012-02-08 23:00:00 9.52 9.52 9.52 1
2012-02-08 22:00:00 8.92 8.92 8.92 1
2012-02-08 21:00:00 9.44 9.44 9.44 1
2012-02-08 20:00:00 9.21 9.21 9.21 1
2012-02-08 19:00:00 9.56 9.56 9.56 1
2012-02-08 15:00:00 9.51 9.51 9.51 1
2012-02-08 09:00:00 9.55 9.55 9.55 1
2012-02-08 03:00:00 8.98 8.98 8.98 1
2012-02-08 00:00:00 9.47 9.47 9.47 1
2012-02-07 23:00:00 8.98 8.98 8.98 1
2012-02-07 22:00:00 8.82 8.82 8.82 1
2012-02-07 21:00:00 9.49 9.49 9.49 1
2012-02-07 20:00:00 9.48 9.48 9.48 1
2012-02-07 19:00:00 9.65 9.65 9.65 1
2012-02-07 15:00:00 9.49 9.49 9.49 1
2012-02-07 09:00:00 10.50 10.50 10.50 1
2012-02-07 03:00:00 9.52 9.52 9.52 1
2012-02-07 00:00:00 9.45 9.45 9.45 1
2012-02-06 23:00:00 10.20 10.20 10.20 1
2012-02-06 22:00:00 9.45 9.45 9.45 1
2012-02-06 21:00:00 9.03 9.03 9.03 1
2012-02-06 20:00:00 9.32 9.32 9.32 1
2012-02-06 19:00:00 9.52 9.52 9.52 1
My ISP (cable form Ziggo) promised 10 Mbps and as you can see the
results are pretty close and stable. Don't ask me why they present
min, max and average for only one test, but that's how it is.
Not all have such nice test results. Ward Dossche and Steven Leeman
are also participating and their results are not by far as stable and
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close to the promised speed as mine. This may be due to various
reasons. For one, Ward is on DSL, not cable and he has family of heavy
lurkers, weher I am basically a light user and there are no teenagers
in the house.
What I am a bit disappointed about is that I "only" got a TL-WR741ND
which has 100 Mbps ports. Ward and Steven got a TL-WR1043ND that has 1
Gbps ports. My whitebox is now a bottleneck for upgrading my LAN to
Gbit, so I have requested to swap mine for a model with gbit ports as
well. Just submitted it, so no answer yet.
What they don't mention in the user instructions is that the whitebox
needs to get an IPv4 (local) address by DHCP. So you must have a DHCP
server active on your LAN. It's IP address is pingable but there is no
user accessible web interface. It does have an ssh server at port 2222
though, but I have not found the password yet...
I haven't delved into the inner workings any further. For one because
I promised not to do so and secondly because I figured I will cross
that bridge when I get to it. When I want to do someothing more with
it than just deploy it as a 5 port switch, it will have to be
reflashed with either the original T-Link firmware or Openwrt or the
likes. I have already found some pointers on the internet on how to do
this, and surely more will be known in two years. Or maybe Samknows
will just give us the info on how to reflash it.
The Whitebox is completely oblivious to IPv6, but it does not
interfere with with it either, so no problem there.
Next week: the RIPE Atlas project.
http://atlas.ripe.net
Thanks to Steven Leeman for drawing my attention to these projects.
⌐ Michiel van der Vlist, all rights reserved.
Permission to publish in the FIDONEWS file echo and the FIDONEWS
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EDITOR'S CORNER
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The First PC
Ask anybody if they know what the first ever Personal Computer (PC)
was, and you'll probably get several different suggestions.
The true geeks will probably suggest a garage product like Altair
8800.
"Ordinary" people will suggest some Apple or IBM product.
But the truth is, the first ever personal, desktop computer is more
than ten years older than that.
Between 1962 and 1964 a small group of technicians at the Olivetti
company in Italy developed the Programma 101. Long before the
integrated circuit, and of course the micro processor, was invented,
they managed to create the very first personal computer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programma_101
This PC was sold mostly in the US. More than 40,000 at the price
of $3,200 (when the cheapest IBM computer cost over $100k). Ten of
those were bought by NASA and used to calculate e. g. everything for
the lunar landing project.
So, tell me why. Why haven't we heard more about this P 101? Can any
of you readers out there seriously say that you knew about this, the
world's very first, desktop computer?
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FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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-=:{ FidoNet Software Reference }:=-
Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal
P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info
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|Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node|
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Argus |MI |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84
| | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889
| | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001
BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102
| | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998
BinkD |MI |http://binkd.grumbler.org/ 2:463/69
| | v0.9.10 on Oct 2nd 2008
D'Bridge |MTCPE|http://www.net229.org/dbridge.htm 1:1/130
Nick Andre |I | v3.64 on June 4 2011
FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280
Michael Haase | | m.haase@gmx.net
| | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003
FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330
Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101
| | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX
Husky Project |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/
| | v1.4 RC5 on Apr 24th 2006
Radius |MI |http://radius.pp.ru 2:5012/38
(based on Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463
| | Last Release: v4.010 on Jan 3nd 2005
Taurus |MI |http://taurus.rinet.ru (Russian) 2:461/70
| |http://www.fidotel.com/taurus (English)
(based on Radius) | | E-mail: taurus@rinet.ru
| | v5.000 alpha on Oct 11th 2004
Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608
| | Website is in Russian only
WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com
Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204
Software, Inc. | | AUP 451.1 on April 26th 2004
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Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org
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| | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.10
FMail |T |http://sourceforge.net/projects/fmail/
| | v1.60.GPL
JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de
(ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000
Squish |T |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
| | Lanuis site redirects to above
| | Squish is part of Maximus.
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BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net
| | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222
ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com
Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com
| | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002
Ezycom BBS |BT |http://www.ezycom-bbs.com
| | ezycom@amnet.net.au or
| | ezycom_hq@ezycom-bbs.com 3:690/682
| | v2.15g2 on 16 Nov 2009
Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org
| | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final
Maximus BBS |B |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
| | v3.03
| |Archives back online at:
| |http://maximus.outpostbbs.net/
MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802
Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
| | v0.60.0 on June 5th 2004
Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com
| | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001
Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net
| | groberts@nexusbbs.net
| | v0.99.41-Beta on Oct 16th 2002
| | [Note: No Longer under active
| | development.]
Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be
| | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002
RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120
Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com
| | v2.62.2SW
Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150
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| | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999
Synchronet BBS |BT |http://www.synchro.net
| | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
| | v3.10L Beta
Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net
| | support@telegard.net
| | v3.09g2 SP4
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Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/
| | Last Update: August 2004
Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net
Sean Dennis | | sean@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200
DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201
Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org
Ruth Argust | |
DoorMUD |D |http://doormud.com
| | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002
| | Website is down after
| | past the splash page.
Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com
| | scott@jibben.com
| | 1995-99 Release dates
John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com
| | support@johndaileysoftware.com
Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
| | nannette@shiningstar.net
Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com
| | Tel: (404) 256-9518
The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
| | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases
Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
| | jpritch@eisonline.com
| | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002
Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013
Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org
| | last update: Jul 17th 2002
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APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de 2:2426/1210.13
| |http://www.apoint-mail.de/indexe.htm
| | (English Version)
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| | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de
| | v1.25
CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de (German Only)
| | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999
FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de 2:2433/460
| | support@freexp.de
| | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot)
OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004
| | (Site is in German Only)
| | mk@openxp.de v3.8.15 Beta Feb 10th 2004
| | Download Page comes back 404 not found.
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GoldEd+ |E |http://golded-plus.sourceforge.net/
| | 2:5080/102
| | stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net
| | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003
SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de
| | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999
TimEd |E |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet
| | mail@ozzmosis.com /timed
| | v1.11.a5 in March 2003 3:633/267
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FidoIP |MTPEIU|http://sourceforge.net/projects/fidoip
| | Maxim Sokolsky 2:5020/828.777
| | v.0.5_1 on Jan 11 2010
GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com
| | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997
Ifmail |UI |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net
| | crosser@average.org 2:5020/230
| | Ifmail is a FTN <-> E-Mail/News Gateway
| | Program.
Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806
(Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001
MakeNL |U | http://hub2000.darktech.org/makenl
| | fidonet.hub2000 [at] gmail [dot] com
| | Fido: 1:229/2000
| | FidoNet Nodelist Processor
Meltdown-BBS |UI |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/
| | meltdown-bbs.project.petkan
| | @spamgourmet.com
| | Fido: 2:350/5
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| | Meltdown-BBS is an FTN <->
| | Web/PHP/MySQL BBS forum system.
RNtrack |U |http://sourceforge.net/projects/ftrack-as
| |2:5080/102
| |stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net
| | v1.1.4 Snapshot on Oct 09 2009
TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
| | transnet@ressl.com.ar
| | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998
TransX: Multiboard |UI |http://www.start.ca/software/multiboard
Communications, Inc.| | Unsure about support now but Free Keys
| | are now available. Donations accepted.
| | v3.5 (Note: KeyGen is a Windows Program)
Turquoise SuperStat |U |http://www.softwolves.pp.se/sw/
| | software/turquoise
| | peter@softwolves.pp.se
| | Version: 3.0 on 2008-01-21
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National BBS List |? | http://www.usbbs.org
Hispanic FIDO/BBS's |? | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/
(in Spanish only) | | (Extensive software & BBS Listings)
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File Archives:
http://archives.thebbs.org http://www.filegate.net
http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org http://www.juge.com
http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/ http://garbo.uwasa.fi
http://www.simtel.net http://wuarchive.wustl.edu
http://www.bbsfiles.com http://hobbes.nmsu.edu
Note: most also provide FTP access
(use ftp:// instead of http:// above)
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Please send corrections & additions to: Fidonews Editor
Emeritus: Robert Couture, Ben Ritchey, Todd Cochrane,
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Nodelist Stats
Input nodelist nodelist.041
size 354.5kb
date 2012-02-10
The nodelist has 2543 nodes in it
and a total of 3677 non-comment entries
including 5 zones
36 regions
245 hosts
213 hubs
admin overhead 499 ( 19.62 %)
and 342 private nodes
131 nodes down
162 nodes on hold
off line overhead 635 ( 24.97 %)
Speed summary:
>9600 = 209 ( 8.22 %)
9600 = 1624 ( 63.86 %)
(HST = 23 or 1.42 %)
(CSP = 0 or 0.00 %)
(PEP = 1 or 0.06 %)
(MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
(HAY = 1 or 0.06 %)
(V32 = 767 or 47.23 %)
(V32B = 61 or 3.76 %)
(V34 = 1098 or 67.61 %)
(V42 = 915 or 56.34 %)
(V42B = 65 or 4.00 %)
2400 = 11 ( 0.43 %)
1200 = 2 ( 0.08 %)
300 = 697 ( 27.41 %)
ISDN = 230 ( 9.04 %)
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File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems
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XA Frontdoor <1.99b 755
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
Xenia
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XB Binkleyterm 2.0 0
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 1
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XP Seadog 0
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XR Opus 1.03 15
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XW Fido >12M 70
Tabby
KittenMail
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 799
Frontdoor 1.99b
Intermail 2.01
T-Mail
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None QMM 903
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CrashMail capable = 1285 ( 50.53 %)
MailOnly nodes = 1265 ( 49.74 %)
Listed-only nodes = 193 ( 7.59 %)
Other = -200 ( -7.86 %)
[Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm]
[ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]
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