FidoNews · Vol 29, No 33 · 13 Aug 2012
The F I D O N E W S Volume 29, Number 33 13 Aug 2012
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Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2
Reorganization of Echos in R24 ........................... 2
3. JAMNNTPD SERVERS LIST .................................... 6
The Johan Billing JamNNTPd project ....................... 6
4. FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ...................... 7
FidoNet Software References .............................. 7
5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 12
How to Submit an Article ................................. 12
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 14
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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When buying and selling are controlled by legislation,
the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.
-- P. J. O'Rourke
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GENERAL ARTICLES
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Reorganization of Fidonet Echos in Region 24 (Germany) in 2012
[July, 2012] In view of the lack of a current echo list and an
increasing number of 'dead' (no-traffic) echos, we decided to use the
recent change of RC24 as a starting position to initiate a
reorganization of all *.GER echos in region 24. In the following
discussion, the word 'echo' is meant to refer to a *.GER conference,
i.e. only German echomail areas were considered.
In an initial step, a discussion was launched in NODES.024 to
determine the majority opinion on the subject, and to find a solution
that would satisfy most points and nodes.
In June, an analysis of the present status of the echos was carried
out. The FeKill lists of REC24 were quite helpful in this work, since
they show when an echo last received mail. We discovered that about
80% of all available echos had no traffic at all, and were quite
simply 'dead'. Many of the remaining 20% echos had very little
traffic.
[Fig1]
During the initial discussion, we defined some constraints for the
reorganization:
1. No new echos.
2. Echos with traffic in 2012 should be retained.
3. The subjects of 'dead' echos should be migrated into existing
echos with traffic.
About 200 echos were identified as being 'dead' or only used by
automatic posting robots. Only 37 viable echos remained. Some of them
had low traffic volumes, but all 37 echos were to be used to
'collect' the topics of the 'dead' echos.
Replacement Recommendations
===========================
Since 80% of all echos were scheduled to be deleted, some nodes
suggested that users be provided with information on where to post
messages relating to a topic formerly covered by one of the 'dead'
echos. This would naturally represent a rare case, since most 'dead'
echos had been without traffic for several years.
Thus, we created a list of recommended replacement echos for each of
the 'dead' ones to be deleted. For example the recommended
replacement for the 'dead' echo AUTO.GER (topic: cars) is SPORT.GER
(old topic: sports), although the topic of cars does not include
racing alone. If a user believes a different echo would be a better
match for a message, he/she may certainly post the message to that
echo.
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NODES.024, the Echo for All and Everything
==========================================
The echo reorganization also had to deal with administrative echos,
some of which offered write access to points. Therefore, we selected
NODES.024 to replace all other administrative echos, and have offered
write access to points. That echo serves as a communication channel
for all administrative tasks and as a meta guide for users ("Where
should I post about such and such a topic?").
Schedule
========
The reorganization process was initiated on July 1st, and will
proceed until August 31st. During this period, the old echos
scheduled for deletion will remain active, but will be removed
from the backbone on September 1st. This schedule provides adequate
time for any necessary changeover work even when a sysop has little
time or may be on vacation.
The Eumel/2 Tool
================
At least two nodes in region 24 run the Eumel/2 tool [1]
developed by Dieter Schauf (2:2452/250) and distributed in the
GFD.FTN.MISC fileecho, which monitors the 'dead' echos, and in case
someone posts in such an echo, sends a netmail to the author to
inform him/her of the reorganization. The netmail also recommends a
replacement echo. However, we expect little traffic in such echos
because the 'dead' echos really _are_ dead :-)
Eumel/2 does even more. If an echomail for a 'dead' echo is received
from a direct downlink, it also connects the downlink with the
recommended replacement echo, and forwards the original echomail to
that replacement echo.
Best Approach
=============
Nodes should connect to all remaining 37 echos immediately, without
waiting for a downlink to request one of those. The 37 active echos
remaining are few in number, and it will be relatively simple to add
them, if necessary, at one go. Those who act quickly to do this can
also offer the advantage of providing a rescan when and if a downlink
links to the replacement echo.
Points should disconnect from all 'dead' echos and connect to the
replacement echos.
Users may obtain the list of remaining active echos (echolist.ger)
and the list of 'dead' echos to be deleted (echo_old.ger) in the
archive R24AREAS.ZIP [2] in the RECLISTE fileecho. The ZIP archive
also includes a list of the replacement echo recommendations
(freqstop.na). Another list (echoarea.ger) provides the user with a
description of each viable echo, including a note of which old echo
it replaces.
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Any node supporting CDP should update echo0002.lst in the
echo0002.zip file with echolist.ger and offer the new ZIP file for
downloading [3]. Please do not forget to rename echolist.ger to
echo0002.lst when installing the new file :-) That should gradually
update all CDP points to support the new echo list.
Communication
=============
In addition to use of the Eumel/2 tool, messages informing users of
the reorganization have been posted to all echos that are to be
deleted. These messages naturally also stated the recommended
replacement echo.
Traffic Statistics (July 1-24)
Sorted by traffic:
Area | Number of Mails | Number of Posters
--------------------------+-----------------+-----------------
FIDOCON.BLEICHENBACH.1996 | 1262 | 13
NODES.024 | 269 | 18
WISSEN.GER | 199 | 23
..............................................................
URTEILE.GER | 70 | 3
OS2.GER | 52 | 6
ANNOUNCE.024 | 51 | 6
EBBAUSER.GER | 32 | 10
PINBALL.GER | 28 | 9
FIDOSOFT.GER | 22 | 11
KOCHEN.GER | 17 | 2
BBACH.CON.INFO | 14 | 8
JOKES.GER | 14 | 2
LINUX.GER | 13 | 6
COMP_OLD.GER | 12 | 5
..............................................................
MOVIE.GER | 9 | 4
PGMRS.GER | 8 | 4
INTERNET.GER | 6 | 5
RECHT.GER | 6 | 4
VERKEHR.OEPNV.GER | 5 | 4
FLEA.GER | 5 | 3
KONTAKT.GER | 4 | 4
MUSIK.GER | 4 | 3
..............................................................
FUTURE4FIDO.GER | 3 | 3
KULTUR.GER | 3 | 1
24000.GER | 2 | 2
DFUE.GER | 2 | 2
HARDWARE.GER | 2 | 2
SPIELE.GER | 2 | 2
TEENS.GER | 2 | 2
..............................................................
CCC.GER | 1 | 1
EURO.GER | 1 | 1
SEX.GER | 1 | 1
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SPORT.GER | 1 | 1
SPRACHE.GER | 1 | 1
TIERE.ALLGEMEIN.GER | 1 | 1
UNIX.GER | 1 | 1
WIN32.GER | 1 | 1
..............................................................
Totals | 2126 | 54
Outlook
=======
Current statistics indicate that only three echos carry high traffic
volumes. Another 11 echos are medium-traffic areas. Otherwise, there
are eight echos with sporadic traffic and seven with low traffic. The
remaining eight echos only carry rules postings by robots.
Comparing the current traffic with that of the previous months, we
note a slight increase of echomail traffic. The ratio of inactive to
active echos changed from 80:20 to 22:78. Searching for active echos,
one finds, on average, every fifth echo to be inactive. As is
apparent, inactive echos made up the majority before the
reorganization, whereas the ratio has since reversed. We are thus
confident that we have met the goal of bundling traffic in active
echos.
Hopefully, we will see further improvement resulting from the echo
reorganization within a few months. And we sincerely hope that this
work will attract more users, and keep current users active.
[Fig2]
References
[1] ftp://ambrosia60.dnsalias.net/GFD/FTN/MISC/EUMEL2G.ZIP
[2] ftp://ambrosia60.dnsalias.net/DIV3/RECLISTE/R24AREAS.ZIP
[3] ftp://ambrosia60.dnsalias.net/DIV3/RECLISTE/ECHO0002.ZIP
[Fig1] http://ambrosia60.dnsalias.net/
images/fidonet-r24-echo-maint-2012.jpg
[Fig2] http://ambrosia60.dnsalias.net/
images/fidonet-r24-echo-maint-2012-traffic07.jpg
Robert Bashe, 2:2448/44
Markus Reschke, 2:244/1661
Ulrich Schroeter, 2:244/1120
Andreas Weiss, 2:2437/224
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JAMNNTPD SERVERS LIST
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The Johan Billing JamNNTPd project
This is a list of known JamNNTPd servers working. They are essentially
the modern version of Bulletin Board Systems.
You connect to them using the email client of your choice and you
don't need any other software installed on your computer -- regardless
of operating system -- but that favourite mail client of yours.
Even smart phones can handle this, giving you the opportunity to get
your daily doses of fidonet on the bus, tram or train on the way to
your job, school or whatever.
Updated 2012-03-11
URL news://felten.yi.org
Join http://felten.yi.org/join.html
NETMAIL Yes, 2:203/2
URL news://the-estar.com:1119
Join http://www.easternstar.info
NETMAIL Yes, 1:123/789
URL news://quinnspost.dyndns.org:60119
Join mailto:eskimo261@bigfoot.com
NETMAIL No
URL news://nntp.rbb.bbs.fi
Join Info in group +GETACCESS+
NETMAIL Yes, 2:221/361
URL news://news.wpusa.dynip.com
Join Info in group +GETACCESS+
NETMAIL Yes, 1:3634/12
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FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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-=:{ FidoNet Software Reference }:=-
Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal
P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info
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|Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node|
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Argus |MI |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84
| | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889
| | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001
BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102
| | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998
BinkD |MI |http://binkd.grumbler.org/ 2:463/69
| | v0.9.10 on Oct 2nd 2008
D'Bridge |MTCPE|http://www.net229.org/dbridge.htm 1:1/130
Nick Andre |I | v3.8 on July 10 2012
FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280
Michael Haase | | m.haase@gmx.net
| | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003
FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330
Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101
| | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX
Husky Project |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/
| | v1.4 RC5 on Apr 24th 2006
Radius |MI |http://radius.pp.ru 2:5012/38
(based on Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463
| | Last Release: v4.010 on Jan 3nd 2005
Taurus |MI |http://taurus.rinet.ru (Russian) 2:461/70
| |http://www.fidotel.com/taurus (English)
(based on Radius) | | E-mail: taurus@rinet.ru
| | v5.000 alpha on Oct 11th 2004
Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608
| | Website is in Russian only
WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com
Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204
Software, Inc. | | AUP 451.1 on April 26th 2004
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Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org
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| | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.10
FMail |T |http://sourceforge.net/projects/fmail/
| | v1.60.GPL
JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de
(ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000
Squish |T |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
| | Lanuis site redirects to above
| | Squish is part of Maximus.
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BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net
| | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222
ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com
Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com
| | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002
Ezycom BBS |BT |http://www.ezycom-bbs.com
| | ezycom@amnet.net.au or
| | ezycom_hq@ezycom-bbs.com 3:690/682
| | v2.15g2 on 16 Nov 2009
Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org
| | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final
Maximus BBS |B |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
| | v3.03
| |Archives back online at:
| |http://maximus.outpostbbs.net/
MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802
Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
| | v0.60.0 on June 5th 2004
Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com
| | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001
Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net
| | groberts@nexusbbs.net
| | v0.99.41-Beta on Oct 16th 2002
| | [Note: No Longer under active
| | development.]
Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be
| | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002
RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120
Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com
| | v2.62.2SW
Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150
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| | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999
Synchronet BBS |BT |http://www.synchro.net
| | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
| | v3.10L Beta
Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net
| | support@telegard.net
| | v3.09g2 SP4
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Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/
| | Last Update: August 2004
Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net
Sean Dennis | | sean@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200
DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201
Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org
Ruth Argust | |
DoorMUD |D |http://doormud.com
| | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002
| | Website is down after
| | past the splash page.
Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com
| | scott@jibben.com
| | 1995-99 Release dates
John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com
| | support@johndaileysoftware.com
Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
| | nannette@shiningstar.net
Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com
| | Tel: (404) 256-9518
The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
| | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases
Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
| | jpritch@eisonline.com
| | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002
Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013
Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org
| | last update: Jul 17th 2002
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APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de 2:2426/1210.13
| |http://www.apoint-mail.de/indexe.htm
| | (English Version)
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| | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de
| | v1.25
CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de (German Only)
| | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999
FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de 2:2433/460
| | support@freexp.de
| | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot)
OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004
| | (Site is in German Only)
| | mk@openxp.de v3.8.15 Beta Feb 10th 2004
| | Download Page comes back 404 not found.
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GoldEd+ |E |http://golded-plus.sourceforge.net/
| | 2:5080/102
| | stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net
| | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003
SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de
| | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999
TimEd |E |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet
| | mail@ozzmosis.com /timed
| | v1.11.a5 in March 2003 3:633/267
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FidoIP |MTPEIU|http://sourceforge.net/projects/fidoip
| | Maxim Sokolsky 2:5020/828.777
| | v.0.5_1 on Jan 11 2010
GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com
| | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997
Ifmail |UI |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net
| | crosser@average.org 2:5020/230
| | Ifmail is a FTN <-> E-Mail/News Gateway
| | Program.
Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806
(Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001
MakeNL |U | http://hub2000.darktech.org/makenl
| | fidonet.hub2000 [at] gmail [dot] com
| | Fido: 1:229/2000
| | FidoNet Nodelist Processor
Meltdown-BBS |UI |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/
| | meltdown-bbs.project.petkan
| | @spamgourmet.com
| | Fido: 2:350/5
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| | Meltdown-BBS is an FTN <->
| | Web/PHP/MySQL BBS forum system.
RNtrack |U |http://sourceforge.net/projects/ftrack-as
| |2:5080/102
| |stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net
| | v1.1.4 Snapshot on Oct 09 2009
TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
| | transnet@ressl.com.ar
| | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998
TransX: Multiboard |UI |http://www.start.ca/software/multiboard
Communications, Inc.| | Unsure about support now but Free Keys
| | are now available. Donations accepted.
| | v3.5 (Note: KeyGen is a Windows Program)
Turquoise SuperStat |U |http://www.softwolves.pp.se/sw/
| | software/turquoise
| | peter@softwolves.pp.se
| | Version: 3.0 on 2008-01-21
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National BBS List |? | http://www.usbbs.org
Hispanic FIDO/BBS's |? | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/
(in Spanish only) | | (Extensive software & BBS Listings)
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http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org http://www.juge.com
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http://www.simtel.net http://wuarchive.wustl.edu
http://www.bbsfiles.com http://hobbes.nmsu.edu
Note: most also provide FTP access
(use ftp:// instead of http:// above)
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