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FidoNews · Vol 3, No 25 · 30 June 1986

     Volume 3, Number 25                                  30 June 1986
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     Editor in Chief:                                   Thom Henderson
     Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

     FidoNews is the official newsletter of the International  FidoNet
     Association,  and is published weekly by SEAdog Leader, node 1/1.
     You  are  encouraged  to  submit  articles  for  publication   in
     FidoNews.  Article submission standards are contained in the file
     FNEWSART.DOC,  available from  node  1/1.

     The   contents  of  the  articles  contained  here  are  not  our
     responsibility,   nor  do  we  necessarily   agree   with   them.
     Everything here is subject to debate.




                             Table of Contents

     1. EDITORIAL
        FidoNet Business Meeting
        View from the Top - ECHOMAIL
     2. ARTICLES
        An Introduction to ASCII
        A Warning about PC's Limited
        "C"
        TROJAN HORSE ALERT
     3. COLUMNS
        Hard Disk Usage and Management Tips, Part 1
     4. FOR SALE
        Entertainment Software for your PC!
        Public Domain Software Library Sale!!
     5. NOTICES
        The Interrupt Stack
        Starting a conference for the Mindset PC
        Faculty Position Available - Computer Science




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     =================================================================
                                 EDITORIAL
     =================================================================

     This week's guest editorial is by Ken Kaplan,  the  International
     FidoNet Coordinator.

                          FidoNet Business Meeting


     We're finally getting IFNA set up as  a  non-profit  corporation.
     This has several benefits,  the main one being that we can now go
     hit some of the major corporations for  grants.  With  any  luck,
     this  will  provide  for  most of our operating expenses one day.
     Meanwhile,  thanks to all of you who have donated.  Without  your
     help, we wouldn't have the seed money to get this thing going.

     But a corporation needs to do certain things.  One of the  things
     we need to do is have an annual business meeting,  to  do  things
     like report on finances,  vote on officers,  and such.  The first
     IFNA  business  meeting  will  be  held   during   the   upcoming
     International FidoNet conference in Colorado Springs.

     One  of the things we'll have to discuss is how to organize these
     meetings.  For now, we are assigning one vote to each network and
     region.  So if you're a network host or a  regional  coordinator,
     please  try  to make it.  If you can't make it,  then please find
     someone in your net or region who IS going,  and make  them  your
     representative.  Please  send  a  message to me at 1/0 letting me
     know if you'll be there, or who you've picked to represent you.

     If there's anything in particular you'd like  to  see  discussed,
     then send me a note about it.  All suggestions are welcome.

     Please try to make it to Colorado in August.  Sally and I will be
     there, and we're looking forward to meeting you at last.

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                             View from the Top
                                 ECHOMAIL
                        by Ben Baker - Fido 100/76

          Much has been said in the past few weeks, in these pages and
     elsewhere, about EchoMail.   Packed  in  the  archive  with  this
     newsletter  is a file, POLICY2.DOC, an update of the prior policy
     document.  It sets forth the "official" IFNA view on EchoMail.

          I'd like to set down some of my own  views  and  to  perhaps
     shed   some   light  on  the  thought  processes  underlying  the
     formulation of the new policy document.

          I  consider  EchoMail  to  be a very good thing for FidoNet,
     which is, after all, a communications network.  Many of  us  have
     beaten  our  heads  against  the  wall trying to get our users to
     communicate via FidoNet with,  at  best,  only  limited  success.
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     EchoMail  seems  to  be  succeeding  where  pleading and coercion
     failed, probably because many don't realize they  are  using  the
     network when they enter a message in an EchoMail conference area.
     It's no different than entering a message in any  other  "normal"
     message area.

          But  EchoMail  can  be  both a blessing and a curse.  It has
     raised the level of traffic considerably.  In and of itself, this
     is  not  bad.   FidoNet is nowhere near saturation, but there are
     choke points.

          FidoNet's original intent was, and it  remains,  to  provide
     fast,  economical  point-to-point electronic communications.  Our
     standard of service goal is over-night delivery of point-to-point
     messages.   Many  things  beyond  our  control  can  prevent  the
     achievement of this goal.  But EchoMail is (or should be)  within
     the  scope of our control.  It must not be permitted to interfere
     with point-to-point communications.

          Just  how  does  EchoMail  interfere?  The biggest burden is
     placed on the network hosts, and they have two different kinds of
     problems  with  EchoMail;   communications  saturation  and  disk
     storage problems.

          Consider the plight of the bi-directional host, the guy  who
     both  receives  and  sends  mail  for his network.  Since he must
     listen for incomming calls between his  outgoing  calls,  he  can
     make  at  most  twenty to thirty call attempts during the FidoNet
     one-hour mail window.  If he has a (very good) 75% success  rate,
     he  can expect to send out about eighteen to twenty-two packets a
     night.  An already busy host can easily  be  swamped  by  two  or
     three  locals,  each  engaged  in two or three different EchoMail
     conferences.

          But what of the out-bound host who  doesn't  have  to  worry
     about  incomming  calls.   He can operate in a send-only mode and
     make rapid fire calls.  Fido 100/10 has successfully sent as many
     as  forty packets in a single night, and averages twenty or more.
     It takes a lot to saturate his ability to communicate, but he has
     another  problem  with EchoMail.  He operates on the thin edge of
     poverty where free disk space is concerned!

          When you do a DIR in a message area and see all  those  tiny
     two  to  three hundred byte message files, you tend to think your
     capacity to hold them must be nearly infinite, but not  so!   DOS
     allocates  a  minimum of one full cluster (that's four kilobytes,
     folks) to every message!

          Worse yet, point-to-point messages  tend  to  be  short  and
     concise.   Usually  they  are  are  four or five liners stating a
     single point of information.  On the other hand,  the  nature  of
     EchoMail tends to encourage long messages.  When you expound on a
     philosophy or support an opinion with  convincing  argument,  you
     tend to use a lot of words.

          Now consider a hypothetical situation.  You're a host and on
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     a  particular  night two of you locals each have six new messages
     in some conference area for which they each mail  to  five  other
     participants.   They  each  send you a packet of thirty messages.
     In packet form the messages average say 4K, so you need  240K  to
     store the two packets.  At the end of the collection schedule you
     unpack the packets, and the messages expand to an average  of  6K
     because  DOS  only  allocates space in 4K chunks.  So you have to
     find room for 320K worth of messages.  Of course you  delete  the
     first  packet  before  you  unpack the second, so your high water
     mark so far is only 540K.  But now comes  the  FidoNet  schedule,
     and you must packetize all those messages without deleting any of
     them!  You build ten outgoing packets  of  28K  each  (allocation
     granularity)  and you now have 600K tied up in EchoMail to handle
     ten innocent messages!  Oops!  You only had 580K when  the  night
     began, so you got the "Disk Full!" message when building packets,
     and YOU DIDN'T SEND ANYBODY ANY MAIL AT ALL!!!

          A similar scenario would illustrate that the  in-bound  host
     is succeptible to exactly the same problem!

          So  here's  the IFNA point of view.  The network host has an
     obligation to strive for the standard of  service  of  over-night
     delivery  of  point-to-point  mail.  He should attempt to support
     EchoMail so long as it doesn't interfere with his first priority.
     When  it  does,  he  has  the  right,  nay  the  duty,  to impose
     restrictions on the EchoMail users.  Imposed restrictions are not
     punitive,  but merely the ordering of priorities, and EchoMailers
     are expected to cooperate.  The degree of restriction will depend
     on  the  severity of the specific problem and will be entirely up
     to the affected host.  We want to encourage EchoMail and  see  it
     work, but not to the detriment of FidoNet.

          That  would  have  been  all  I had to say, but here's a new
     wrinkle not covered by POLICY2.DOC (because we didn't think of it
     until  a  situation  was brought to our attention).  What are the
     special responsibilities of a network host  who  participates  in
     one  or  more EchoMail conferences?  How do you resolve the issue
     when  his  activities  begin  to  impact  his  locals  who  don't
     themselves participate?  I'd like to hear your ideas on this.

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     =================================================================
                                 ARTICLES
     =================================================================

                          An Introduction to ASCII


     The proper and correct names for all those  funny  characters  on
     your keyboard, and in computer related text.  Here is the correct
     explanation.  Ignore all others;  this is of course the  absolute
     truth.

     ASCII  characters  sometimes  use  parity;  parity is a method of
     confusing your computer into thinking that  the  characters  sent
     are  something that they are not.  Parity has no practical use in
     real life; large computers use parity as part of their religion.


           Space. You can't see it there.

     !     Surprise mark; dammit; Incorrectly called "exclamation
           point" by foolish grade school teachers. Usually you will
           find either none or too many; every! other! word! will!
           have! one! or! more!!!

     "     Quote; double quote. Usually put around words the author is
           afraid he doesn't understand; for computer programs, it is
           the latter.

     #     pound; sharp; it must be called either pound or sharp, even
           though it never means either.  This is a secret password
           into computer priesthood.

     $     bucks; or, as originated by Digital Research, "the end".
           Actually, as far as DRI goes, its pretty prophetic ...

     %     percent; Used in drawing ugly boxes around useless text, as
           in bulletin boards and the like.

     &     and, in logical expressions; ampersand elsewhere. It looks
           nice and is hard to draw by hand. Let your printer do it.

     '     little quote; single quote; apostrophe to ignoramuses.
           Since it is very small and hard to see, some computer
           languages use it as an important operator.

     (     paren; left paren; open paren; or parenthesis, which is way
           too long a word. Used to correct compiler bugs in operator
           precedence, or by incompetents who cannot memorize a few
           hundred simple rules.

     )     paren; right paren; close paren; parenthesis. See above.

     *     star; blob; blatz; asterisk. Yet another horrible character
           used to draw boxes. Like most of these, it is used far too
           often to be of any use.
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     +     plus; "and" if you're sloppy. Connects things together, and
           is sometimes used by people who want to draw boxes but can't
           afford graphics.

     ,     comma; what can I say?

     -     minus if near a number; dash otherwise. Some word
           processors try to fool you that a bunch of these in a row
           is really the end of a page; we know better than that.

     .     point if near a number; dot otherwise. Three dots together
           (like ...) can be called "dotdotdot", but it is really an
           ellipsis. This is another test for computer priesthood.

     /     slash; divided by; a good compiler will find many
           different, conflicting uses for this in different contexts.

     0-9   You know these. 0 is not "oh", it's zero, and is greater
           than 9, as we all know.

     :     colon; I have heard that human colons do not resemble this
           in the slightest.

     ;     semicolon. (Actually, its more than a colon, not part of
           one, it has a tail, but alas ...)

     <     angle bracket; less than. Can be put to great use when
           attempting to define the syntax for a computer program,
           like so:

                     PROGRAM ARGUMENT [optional { ...<required> } ]

     =     equals

     >     angle bracket; greater than

     ?     question mark; what; denotes confusion.

     @     blob; at; bang. Usually what your terminal displays just
           before going south with all your days work.

     A-Z   If I have to tell you ...

     [     bracket; square bracket

     \     backslash. There is usually a slash (regular style) to be
           found near by to check that you are paying attention.

     ]     bracket; square bracket

     ^     hat; incorrectly called caret. Sometimes means "Control-",
           as in "Control-C", syntactically similar to "Shift-A".  ^A
           is to a as A is to a. Sometimes used to cause arithmetic
           overflows; as in 100^5000.

     _     Underscore; incorrectly called underline. This is a
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           wonderful character, because you really can't underscore
           another character without writing a long letter to your
           word processor, requesting it do do so.

     a-z   See note above on A - Z

     `     accent; backwards quote (sic). Not used in any computer
           worth anything. These are meant to be deleted when found.

     {     wiggly bracket; squiggly bracket; incorrectly called brace.
           While you may think it is like angle brackets and square
           brackets, it most definitely is not.

     |     bar; vertical line. Why does it have that little piece
           missing?

     }     wiggly bracket; squiggly bracket; incorrectly called brace.

     ~     wiggle; squiggle; traditionally called a tilde, which is
           obscure enough to continue using. Only very good languages
           find a use for this. It is extremely hard to see,
           especially when near a dash, little quote or back quote.

           Aha! Can't see that either! Its a delete!

     -----------------------------------------------------------------

     Fidonews                     Page 8                   30 Jun 1986


     Robert Briggs, 15/464

         WARNING   WARNING   WARNING   WARNING   WARNING   WARNING


     I've been ripped off to the tune of $700 by PC's Limited, 7801 N.
     Lamar, Suite E-200, Austin, TX.

     This whole situation started on the 27th of March,  1985  when  I
     originally  ordered the drive.  I used the drive to bring up Fido
     node 15/464,  and used it for about 5 weeks.  Unfortunately,  the
     drive that I originally obtained from PC's Limited was faulty, it
     crashed almost weekly,  and each time it was re-formatted, it had
     more and more bad sectors show up.  It was returned to  them  for
     repair.  It  came back "Dead On Arrival" - the person responsible
     for Quality Controlling the drive failed to  retract  the  heads,
     this  resulted in a bad track 0 which made the drive unusable.  I
     had since purchased a larger drive,  and had made arrangements to
     sell  the drive to someone else.  Needless to say,  the buyer was
     no longer interested in buying a hard disk from me.

     The drive was once again shipped back to them on June 7th,  1985,
     accompanied  by a letter requesting a refund.  (it is interesting
     to note that the RMA number issued the second time was 3436,  the
     first  RMA  was  2973  - that means that in a period of roughly 2
     weeks,  PC's Limited had 493 defective products shipped  back  to
     them!)

     There  was  no  response  to  my  letter,  nor any repaired drive
     returned.  I was unable to contact the person who was responsible
     for handling refunds.  Two months later,  I  sent  the  following
     letter addressed to the Chief Executive Officer of PC's Limited:


         Robert S. Briggs
         P.O. Box 7175
         Murray, UTAH   84107-0175

         08 August, 1985

         Dear Sir:

              It  has  now  been over 60 days since I returned my disk
         drive to your company for a refund,  and  nearly  six  months
         sine  I  originally  purchased  the  drive,  (which has never
         worked correctly).  While I (am) normally quite patient, this
         situation is causing me to become angry enough to  take  some
         rather strong measures to recover my money.  Unless I receive
         my $695.00 refund check by the 21st of August, 1985, I intend
         to do the following:

         1.  Send  a  copy  of  this  letter  and  a  formal letter of
         complaint to Byte magazine, PC magazine,  and any other major
         magazine that I can find one of your advertisements in.

         2.  Publish a copy of this letter in the public domain, and a
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         warning about both the type of service and equipment that you
         seem  to  be  providing.  In  addition,  I  will request that
         anyone reading  that  warning  distribute  it  to  any  other
         bulletin  boards that they use.  I expect that such a warning
         would be distributed to well over 2000 bulletin boards  in  a
         matter of several weeks, making this letter available to well
         over  200,000 readers by the middle of September.  This could
         have a great impact on your sales...

            The situation is becoming ludicrous; I have been unable to
         contact the mysterious Tammy (the person handling refunds) in
         nearly two months of calling two days a week.  A typical days
         worth of calls (my local time) goes something like this:

          9:00 a.m. Not in yet              10:00 a.m. Not in yet
         10:30 a.m. Not in yet              11:00 a.m. Out to lunch
         12:00 p.m. Out to lunch            12:30 p.m. Out to lunch
          1:00 p.m. Out to lunch             1:30 P.m. Out to lunch
          2:30 p.m. Out on break
          3:30 p.m. Left for the day - try tomorrow

            I have enclosed a copy of my invoice;  my original copy of
         the  charge  slip  was  sent  in the last time I returned the
         drive for repair.  The last return of the drive was under RMA
         #3436, the drive was "DEAD ON ARRIVAL" when returned from RMA
         #2973 repair (due to the heads not being retracted  when  the
         drive was shipped back to me).

            I  would  appreciate your prompt attention to this matter,
         and hope that this whole situation can be settled swiftly and
         in a friendly manner.

                             Sincerely,


                             Robert S. Briggs




     After  another  month  with  no  reply  from  PC's  Limited,   in
     frustration,  I  sent  the  following  letter  to the advertising
     editors of several magazines, PC-TECH, PC WORLD, etc.


                                                Robert Briggs
                                                P.O. Box 7175
                                                Murray, UT  84107-0175
                                                (801) xxx-xxxx

         XXXXX Magazine
         Advertising Manager
         xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxs xxx
         xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
         xxxxxxxxxxxx, xx  xxxxx

     Fidonews                     Page 10                  30 Jun 1986


         August 29th, 1985


         Dear Advertising Editor,

              I would like to make a formal complaint against  one  of
         the  companies that advertises in your magazine.  It has been
         nearly six months since I first ordered a 20  megabyte  drive
         from PCS Ltd.,  (the drive was originally ordered in March of
         1985),  and in that time they have failed  to  deliver  me  a
         either  a  functional  disk drive,  or the refund that I have
         been requesting for over two months now.

              Enclosed please find a copy of a letter that I  sent  to
         the  Chief Executive Officer of PCS Ltd.  on August 8,  1985.
         There has been no response to this letter.  As  nearly  as  I
         can  tell,  I  have  simply  been "ripped-off" for the sum of
         $695.00.  If there is any way  that  you  can  assist  me  in
         recovering  the  original  sum,  I  would be pleased,  I have
         already "written off" the money spent in long distance  phone
         calls and shipping.

              Unless  I can recover my money in the near future,  I am
         going to place a description of what I have been through  and
         copies  of  the  correspondence into the public domain with a
         request that it be distributed as widely as possible.  It  is
         a  last  resort  and  a  one  way step - once done it can not
         easily be undone - but maybe I can get some satisfaction  out
         of  keeping  other people from making the same mistake.  I am
         not vindictive and would be more than happy to let the  whole
         matter drop upon receipt of a check for what I am owed.

              I  would  certainly  appreciate  any help that you could
         give me in this matter.

                                            Sincerely,
                                            Robert S. Briggs


     On September 13th,  1985,  I received the following  letter  from
     Byte  magazine.  It  is  nice  to  know  that at least one of the
     magazines was interested and courteous  enough  to  reply.  Looks
     like I will have to re subscribe to BYTE magazine....



         September 10, 1985

         Mr. Robert Briggs
         P.O. Box 7175
         Murray, UT  84107-0175

         Dear Mr. Briggs:

         This  is  in response to your letter of August 29,  a copy of
         which we are forwarding to PC's Limited.  Rest  assured  that
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         we  shall  use  whatever  influence  we  have  to get them to
         satisfactorily respond to your complaint.  Please also try to
         understand that  it  is  impossible,  both  logistically  and
         legally  for  us  to  try  to  resolve  all  disputes between
         advertisers in BYTE and their customers.

         The best  we  can  do  is  to  provide  a  conduit  to  start
         communication between the advertiser and the customer, and to
         cease  offering  advertising  space  in  our  magazine  to an
         advertiser  when  a  clear  pattern  of  unresolved  customer
         problems  appear.  With  your  complaint,  we  are  sincerely
         attempting to facilitate discussion between the parties which
         could lead to an appropriate resolution.

         We are asking both you and PC's Limited to keep us posted  on
         any  results obtained from our transactions.  Thanks you very
         much for your patience and information.


         Sincerely,

         xxxxx x. xxxxxxx
         Customer Relations



     Here is my reply to the Byte Magazine letter:




                                           Robert Briggs
                                           P.O. Box 7175
                                           Murray, UT  84107-0175
                                           (801) xxx-xxxx

         BYTE MAGAZINE
         Attn: xxxxxx x. xxxxxxx
         70 Main Street
         Peterborough, NH  03458

         October 7, 1985


         Dear xx. xxxxxxx,

              This is in reply to your letter of September  10,  1985,
         concerning  PC's  Limited.  I  believe  that I have allowed a
         sufficient  time  for  PC's  Limited  to  reply,  so  I  must
         regretfully   state   that  I  have  received  absolutely  no
         correspondence from them.  I must also assume that they  have
         chosen to not reply because they have no intention of issuing
         me a refund - they have simply "ripped me off" to the tune of
         $700.

              I hope that there is some pressure that you can exert on
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         them  as  advertisers  in  your magazine.  I am also going to
         correspond  with  the  Attorney  Generals  Office,   consumer
         complaint division,  and the Better Business Bureau of Austin
         Texas, in hopes of getting some response (i.e. a refund) from
         them.

              I am preparing to distribute all of  the  correspondence
         to  date to each of the nodes in the FIDO network (watch your
         BYTE  bulletin  board,   all  of  this  information  will  be
         distributed  under the file name RIPOFF$.700 or pc-ltd.rip or
         something similar) and will request that it be  passed  along
         to  any bulletin board that the users know of,  and I hope to
         have copies  of  all  of  this  correspondence  published  in
         several IBM-PC specific newsletters.  This action should make
         this  whole  situation  available  to  approximately  200,000
         readers in a matter of roughly two weeks,  and could reach  a
         million PC users, by word of mouth, in roughly a month.

              I  do  not  understand why PC's Limited is forcing me to
         pursue  such  an  unfriendly  course  of  action.  I  am  not
         alleging mail fraud, but I think that anyone is entitled to a
         refund and a letter of explanation after attempting to obtain
         a working product or refund for over six months.

              Thank  you  for your time and the help that you and Byte
         Magazine have given me.


                                      Sincerely,



                                      Robert S. Briggs
                                      SYSOP of FIDO 15/464




     A copy  of  the  original  letter  to  the  advertising  managers
     suitably  modified,  (below)  has  been  sent to the Austin Texas
     Attorneys office, and the Austin Better Business Bureau.




                                        Robert Briggs
                                        P.O. Box 7175
                                        Murray, UT  84107-0175
                                        (801) xxx-xxxx

         City Government Building
         Attorney Generals Office
         Consumer Complaint Division
         Austin, TX   78752


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         October 7th, 1985


         Dear Sir,

              I would like  to  make  a  formal  complaint  against  a
         company  doing  mail  order sales based in your city.  It has
         been nearly six months since I first ordered  a  20  megabyte
         drive  (some  computer equipment) from PC's Limited,  7801 N.
         Lamar,  Suite  E-200,   Austin  78752,   (the  equipment  was
         originally  ordered in March of 1985),  and in that time they
         have failed to deliver me a either a functional  disk  drive,
         or  the  refund  that  I  have been requesting for over three
         months now.

              Enclosed please find a copy of a letter that I  sent  to
         the  Chief Executive Officer of PCS Ltd.  on August 8,  1985,
         and copies of other  correspondence  with  various  magazines
         that   they   advertise  in.   There  has  been  no  response
         whatsoever from PC's Limited, and, as nearly as I can tell, I
         have simply been "ripped-off" for  the  sum  of  $695.00.  If
         there  is  any  way  that you can assist me in recovering the
         original sum,  I would be pleased,  I have  already  "written
         off"  the  money  spent  in  long  distance  phone  calls and
         shipping.


              I would certainly appreciate any  help  that  you  could
         give  me  in this matter.  I am not alleging mail fraud,  but
         the whole situation has dragged on for over 7 months now, and
         I feel that a refund should have been forthcoming long before
         now, from an honest company.

                                            Sincerely,



                                            Robert S. Briggs



     As yet,  there have been  no  replies  to  the  latest  round  of
     correspondence.

     I  guess that I have to leave it up to you,  the reader to decide
     whether I have been too harsh on a company that failed to deliver
     me a working product after more than 6 months,  and who seems  to
     refuse to issue me a refund.

     If you can,  give this file the widest distribution that you have
     available.  Maybe someone else will avoid getting ripped  off  by
     this company.  Maybe even you...


     If you are really into such things, how about sending a letter to
     PC's  Limited  telling them that you have read this article,  and
     Fidonews                     Page 14                  30 Jun 1986


     have no intention of purchasing anything from them because of it.
     Anyone having similar problems with this  company  might  drop  a
     letter to the BYTE Magazine Customer relations department, urging
     them to remove PC's Limited from their advertising.


     You  can  keep  current  on  the  situation  and  get any further
     bulletins from my board at (801) 264-8290.

     Robert S. Briggs   SYSOP  FIDO 15/464  (801) 264-8290

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     Fidonews                     Page 15                  30 Jun 1986


                                    "C"

     Peeple have bin noan to objekt to my spelling. I am going to take
     this oportunity to fite bak.

     The problem is not with my spelling,  it is with written English.
     As  an  example,  the  letter  "c"  serves  no purpose in written
     English.  For the hard "c" as in "cat",  a  "k"  works  perfektly
     well.  For a soft "c" as in "city",  a "s" kan be used.  The only
     other "c" is the "ch" sutsh as is found in "such".

     In fakt the only  exkuse  for  the  letter  "c"  in  the  English
     language  is  for  proper  names  (peeple,  plases,  and things).
     "California",   "Charles",   and  "Chineese"  (refering  to   the
     language)  should  probably  be spelt the obsolete way,  at least
     till there is an oportuinity to tshange them on  maps  and  other
     rekords.  Of  koarse I see no reason they kould not be refered to
     as "Kalifornia",  "Tsharles",  and "Tshineese" but there may be a
     some unnessessary konfushun.

     One  interesting  example  is  the "Programming Language C".  "C"
     kould be redefined to treat the symbols "c"  or  "C"  as  speshul
     reserved  operators.  The  statement "c name" kould be defined to
     run "name" where "name" is a  string  with  the  name  of  a  "c"
     program.  Identifiers  and  reserved  words  kould  be denied the
     alfabetik use of "c".

     There are many other problems I find with written English. I will
     leave solutions to them to the reader.  I have purposly not  made
     an  attempt  here  to  korrekt all of the follies of our language
     (nor have I made any partikular effort to follow them).

     Lloyd Miller
     "Calgary" (Kalgary), Alberta
     Fidonet 134/1

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     Fidonews                     Page 16                  30 Jun 1986


                                 *** W A R N I N G ***

                                  TROJAN HORSE ALERT

                                     FIDOPROM.COM

     Well,  we have a new one.  This program claims to be  written  by
     Tom Jennings:

                     Welcome to the Fido prompt writer
                          Written by: Tom Jennings
             Intended for use with Fido Versions 11v - 11w ONLY
                        Copyright 1986, Tom Jennings

     I just got off the phone with Tom,  and HE DID NOT WRITE IT!  The
     first  clue  was  that  it  is written in TURBO PASCAL.  Tom only
     writes in C or  ASM.  Next,  the  cute  dialog  in  the  file  is
     atypical  of  what  Tom does.  From looking at the strings in the
     program (using CHK4BOMB), I guess that it will either delete your
     USER.BBS file, or copy it to another file (REPORTS.PAS), where it
     could be downloaded at some  later  date.  Interestingly  enough,
     another  "new  user" was on the next day,  searching all the file
     areas for files of the type indicated in the program.

     It was uploaded to both 109/74 and 109/483 within 1 hour of  each
     other.  If  you  have  received  a  copy of this "gift",  I would
     appreciate getting any information you might have on the fool who
     uploaded it.

     And, if you have run it, I would like to know what happened.

     SYSOP
     109/74 - The Bear's Den
     109/483 - Wash-A-RUG

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     Fidonews                     Page 17                  30 Jun 1986


     =================================================================
                                  COLUMNS
     =================================================================

                  Taking Advantage of Your PC's Hard Disk:
                          Part I, File Management

                                Barry Gordon
                      New York Personal Computer, Inc.

     This article is about organizing files on any hard disk  attached
     to  a  member  of  the  IBM  PC family,  including the PC with an
     Expansion  Unit,  and  certainly,   the  PC  AT.   The  following
     suggestions  have evolved from several months of using the IBM PC
     XT as a follow-on system to the IBM PC.  I  hope  these  thoughts
     prove  useful  to  those  who work with hard disks on the IBM PC,
     particularly those who are new to it.

     File Management

     The hard disk is not merely an  overgrown  diskette.  It  can  be
     used that way,  but you would be inviting serious file management
     problems in doing so.  The hard disk has other  capabilities  you
     should utilize, and there is no reason not to take full advantage
     of the hard disk's potential.

     About the last thing you want to deal with is a ten megabyte hard
     disk containing all its files in one directory. (There is a limit
     of how many files the root directory can contain, so the disk may
     give  you  an  error  message even though much of the disk is not
     filled.) With intelligent organization, the hard disk retains its
     speed advantage over the diskette,  and you are  better  able  to
     keep  track  of your files as well.  The name of each file should
     use filename and the three-letter extension.  Sooner or later you
     will need all the help you can get in remembering what each  file
     contains.   Most  importantly,   though,  your  files  should  be
     organized among several directories.

     The Root Directory

     Each DOS volume (diskette or hard  disk)  has  a  root  directory
     which  DOS  creates when it formats the disk.  The root directory
     on your hard disk should contain a minimum  of  files,  reserving
     the space for sub-directory names.

     Nonetheless,  a  few  files  are essential in the root directory.
     When you format the hard disk, use the /S parameter:  FORMAT C:/S
     which copies three .COM files to your hard disk:

                  (IBMBIO.COM)
                  (IBMDOS.COM)
                  COMMAND.COM

     Notice  that  the first two are hidden files.  You won't see them
     in any DIRectory listing,  but the CHKDSK command will  tell  you
     they are there.
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     You  should  store the various DOS external command files and all
     data files in other sub-directories.

     Sub-directories for Executable Files

     Now let's  consider  locating  your  various  executable  program
     files--the .EXE,  .COM,  and .BAT files.  You'll want to separate
     related programs into sub-directories of their own.  For example,
     you may want one sub-directory containing all of the external DOS
     commands,  another sub-directory with your word  processing  .COM
     and .EXE files, another with your accounting .COM and .EXE files,
     etc.  until  you have stored all of your executable programs into
     sub-directories.  They are much easier to remember this way.

     The root directory  has  no  user-assigned  name,  but  all  sub-
     directories  are  specifically  created and named using the MKDIR
     command, MD for short:

                   MD anyname

     You can create as many levels of sub-directories as you like, but
     generally, the fewer levels you have to create,  the simpler your
     directory  structure will be.  There will be times when a second-
     or third-level  sub-directory  is  needed  (a  directory  created
     within another sub-directory),  but multi-leveled sub-directories
     create a more complex path structure for both you and DOS to sort
     through.

     Directory Sizes

     You can fill a sub-directory with as many bytes as the disk  will
     allow, but it is often convenient to limit the size of those sub-
     directories  into  which you regularly store data to the capacity
     of a single diskette,  320-360 KB.  This allows you to back up  a
     directory using the COPY command:

                  COPY C:*.* A:

     The  COPYable  directory size offers an alternative to the BACKUP
     and RESTORE commands,  an alternative that many  find  easier  to
     use.  It  offers  portability  as well as backup.  If you want to
     verify the copy with  its  original,  you  can  follow  the  COPY
     command with this:

                   COMP C: A:

     However,  if  you  feel  confident  using  the BACKUP and RESTORE
     commands,  the contents of a single sub-directory can be as  many
     bytes as you like.  The bigger it is, the more time consuming the
     backup process becomes.

     Another  suggestion  is  to  give  each  backup diskette a volume
     label.  This is especially useful if you use the COPY command  to
     back up your sub-directories.  By using the /V parameter when you
     format  the  diskette,  you can label your diskette with the same
     name as the directory it backs up.
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     It  is  rarely  necessary  to  back  up  the  entire  hard  disk.
     Typically,  you  store  data  changes  in the files of a few sub-
     directories, those few being the only sub-directories you need to
     back up regularly.  Many sub-directories never change,  and  need
     backing up only once.

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     Fidonews                     Page 20                  30 Jun 1986


     =================================================================
                                 FOR SALE
     =================================================================

                  ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE FOR YOUR PC!

                          SUPERDOTS!  KALAH!

     Professional quality games include PASCAL source!  From  the
     author of KALAH Version 1.6,  SuperDots,  a variation of the
     popular pencil/paper DOTS game,  has MAGIC  and  HIDDEN  DOT
     options.  KALAH  1.7  is  an African strategy game requiring
     skill to manipulate pegs around a playing board.  Both games
     use the ANSI Escape sequences  provided  with  the  ANSI.SYS
     device driver for the IBM-PC,  or built into the firmware on
     the DEC  Rainbow.  Only  $19.95  each  or  $39.95  for  both
     exciting  games!  Please  specify  version  and disk format.
     These games have been written in standard  TURBO-PASCAL  and
     run on the IBM-PC,  DEC Rainbow 100 (MSDOS and CPM), CPM/80,
     CPM/86,  and PDP-11.  Other disk formats are available,  but
     minor customization may be required.

                             BSS Software
                             P.O. Box 3827
                         Cherry Hill, NJ 08034


     For every order placed,  a donation will be made to the Fido
     coordinators!  Also, if you have a previous version of KALAH
     and send me a donation, a portion of that donation will also
     be sent to the coordinators.  When you place  an  order,  BE
     CERTAIN  TO  MENTION  WHERE  YOU  SAW  THE  AD since it also
     appears in PC Magazine and Digital Review.

     Questions and comments can be sent to:

                      Brian Sietz at  Fido 107/17
                      (609) 429-6630    300/1200/2400 baud

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     Fidonews                     Page 21                  30 Jun 1986


              Now available from Micro Consulting Associates!!

     Public Domain collection - 550+ "ARC"  archives  -  20+  megs  of
     software  and  other  goodies,  and that's "archived" size!  When
     unpacked,  you get approximately 28 megabytes worth of all  kinds
     of  software,  from text editors to games to unprotection schemes
     to communications programs, compilers, interpreters, etc...  Over
     55 DS/DD diskettes!!

     This collection is the result of more than 15 months of intensive
     downloads  from  just  about 150 or more BBS's and other sources,
     all of which have been examined,  indexed and archived  for  your
     convenience.  Starting  a  Bulletin Board System?  Want to add on
     to your software base without spending thousands of dollars? This
     is the answer!!!

     To order the library,  send  $100  (personal  or  company  check,
     postal money order or company purchase order) to:

                    Micro Consulting Associates, Fido 103/511
                    Post Office Box 4296
                    200-1/2 E. Balboa Boulevard
                    Balboa, Ca. 92661-4296

     Please allow 3 weeks for delivery of your order.

     Note:  No  profit  is  made  from  the  sale of the Public Domain
     software in this collection.  The price is  applied  entirely  to
     the  cost  of  downloading  the  software  over  the phone lines,
     running a  BBS  to  receive  file  submissions,  and  inspecting,
     cataloguing, archiving and maintaining the files.  Obtaining this
     software yourself through the use of  a  computer  with  a  modem
     using  commercial phone access would cost you much more than what
     we charge for the service...

     Please specify what type of format you would like the disks to be
     prepared on.  The following choices are available:
           - IBM PC-DOS Backup utility
           - Zenith MS-DOS 2.11 Backup Utility
           - DSBackup
           - Fastback
           - ACS INTRCPT 720k format
           - Plain  ol' files (add $50)

     Add $30 if you want  the  library  on  1.2  meg  AT  disks  (more
     expensive  disks).  There  are  no  shipping or handling charges.
     California residents add 6% tax.

     For each sale, $10 will go to the FidoNet Administrators.

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     Fidonews                     Page 22                  30 Jun 1986


     =================================================================
                                  NOTICES
     =================================================================

                          The Interrupt Stack


     20 Jul 1986
        St. Louis Area Sysops Meeting, to be held at Baker's Acre.
        Net 100 sysops please contact Ben Baker at 100/76 for details
        and directions.

     14 Aug 1986
        Start of the International FidoNet Conference, Colorado
        Springs, Colorado.  Contact George Wing at node 1/10 for
        details.  Get your reservations in NOW!  We'll see you there!

     24 Aug 1989
        Voyager 2 passes Neptune.


     If you have something which you would like to see on this
     calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1/1.

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     James Pallack, 16/635

                     MINDSET Conference using EchoMail

     I am looking for Fido's around  the  U.S.  that  are  willing  to
     participate in a conference for the MINDSET computer.  This would
     be  using  the EchoMail software and dedicating a message section
     to the conference.

     If you are interested or am willing to have  this  conference  on
     your  BBS.  Please  contact me via FidoNet at 16/635.  If you are
     interested in participating,  but don't have the  funds  for  the
     service,  please  contact  me anyway.  Arrangements can be worked
     out (e.g. I'll pick up the mail).

     Currently I have locations in Sunnyvale, CA (143/20) and New York
     City (107/102).

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               Faculty Position Available - Computer Science

     Position Description:  Full-time,  tenure track position to teach
                            various   computer  science  core  courses
                            which emphasize programming languages  and
                            data  structures.  Will  also  teach upper
                            division  courses  in  Operating  Systems,
                            Compilers and Formal Language Theory.

     Salary and Rank:       Assistant  Professor  of Computer Science,
     Fidonews                     Page 23                  30 Jun 1986


                            salary dependant upon  qualifications  and
                            experience.

     Qualifications:        M.S. or Ph.D. in computer science.  Strong
                            interest  in  undergraduate  teaching  and
                            developing a computer science program in a
                            liberal arts setting.  Classroom  teaching
                            experience and a working knowledge of UNIX
                            are preferred.

     Appointment Date:      August 25, 1986

     Closing Date:          Open until filled,  immediate applications
                            accepted.

     The University:        Pacific University is a small, independant
                            liberal   arts   institution    with    an
                            enrollment  of  about  1100 students.  The
                            university is composed of the  College  of
                            Arts  and  Sciences  and  the  College  of
                            Optometry.  The computer science offerings
                            are within the Department of  Mathematical
                            Sciences.  The  Department of Mathematical
                            Sciences offers a major  and  a  minor  in
                            Computer  Science,   a  cooperative  BS/MS
                            program  in  Computer  Science  with   the
                            Oregon Graduate Center,  and a major and a
                            minor in Mathematics.

     The Community:         The city of Forest Grove has a  population
                            of  about  14,000.  It is located 25 miles
                            west of Portland,  within an hour's  drive
                            to the Oregon coast,  and two hours to the
                            Cascade Mountains.

     Hiring Policy:         Pacific is an  affirmative  action,  equal
                            opportunity employer.

     To Apply:              Send  letter of application,  vita,  three
                            letters  of  recommendation  and  official
                            transcripts to:

                            Douglas J. Ryan
                            Department of Mathematical Sciences
                            Pacific University
                            Forest Grove, OR  97116

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