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FidoNews · Vol 3, No 26 · 7 July 1986

     Volume 3, Number 26                                   7 July 1986
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     Editor in Chief:                                   Thom Henderson
     Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

     FidoNews is the official newsletter of the International  FidoNet
     Association,  and is published weekly by SEAdog Leader, node 1/1.
     You  are  encouraged  to  submit  articles  for  publication   in
     FidoNews.  Article submission standards are contained in the file
     FNEWSART.DOC,  available from  node  1/1.

     The   contents  of  the  articles  contained  here  are  not  our
     responsibility,   nor  do  we  necessarily   agree   with   them.
     Everything here is subject to debate.




                             Table of Contents

     1. EDITORIAL
        Deteriorata
     2. ARTICLES
        Freshening ARCs Before Posting for Download
        Employment Opportunities Notes 2
        Last Embrace - a cautionary tale.
        Tips on QNEWUSER.BBS for Semi-Private Systems
        Computer worms
     3. COLUMNS
        Hard Disk Usage and Management Tips, Part 2
        Computer Industry SpotLight
        Job Market Research Part I
     4. WANTED
        Auto-shuffle news letter as a scheduled event
        Computer Training Cruise Market Survey
        Wanted: Citadel sysops!
     5. FOR SALE
        Entertainment Software for your PC!
        Public Domain Software Library Sale!!
        SERVTECH from Rylos Technologies
     6. NOTICES
        The Interrupt Stack
        CARTOON: Gruesome George, by Bruce White
        Computer Training Market Survey
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        Changing of the Guard in Net 135
        Sched version 4 is now out




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                                 EDITORIAL
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                                Deteriorata

          Go placidly amid the  noise  and  waste  and  remember  what
     comfort  there may be in owning a piece thereof.  Avoid quiet and
     passive persons unless you are in  need  of  sleep.  Rotate  your
     tires.  Speak  glowingly  of those greater than yourself and heed
     well their advice,  even though they be  turkeys.  Know  what  to
     kiss, and when.  Consider that two wrongs never make a right, but
     that  three  do.  Wherever  possible,  put  people  on  hold.  Be
     comforted that in the face of all aridity and disillusionment and
     despite the changing fortunes of time,  there  is  always  a  big
     future in computer maintenance.

          Remember  the  Pueblo.  Strive  at all times to bend,  fold,
     spindle,  and mutilate.  Know yourself.  If you need  help,  call
     the FBI.  Exercise caution in your daily affairs, especially with
     those  persons  closest  to  you - that tomato on your left,  for
     instance.  Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls
     would scarcely get your feet wet.  Fall not in  love,  therefore;
     it  will  stick to your face.  Gracefully surrender the things of
     youth, birds, clean air, tuna,  Taiwan.  And let not the sands of
     time  get  in  your  lunch.  Hire  people with hooks.  For a good
     time, call 606-4311,  ask for Ken.  Take heart amid the deepening
     gloom  that  your  dog  is  finally  getting  enough cheese.  And
     reflect that whatever misfortune may be your lot,  it could  only
     be worse in Milwaukee.

          You  are  a  fluke of the universe.  You have no right to be
     here.  And whether you can  hear  it  or  not,  the  universe  is
     laughing behind your back.

          Therefore,  make peace with your god,  whatever you conceive
     him to be: hairy thunderer or cosmic muffin.  With all its hopes,
     dreams,  promises,  and urban renewal,  the  world  continues  to
     deteriorate.  Give up.

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                                 ARTICLES
     =================================================================

     Christopher Baker
     Metro-Fire Fido, 135/14

                         ARC F and the Local Sysop

     All of us,  who are System Operators,  know that time is precious
     and  tasks  always seem to expand to fill the available time,  no
     matter what we started out to do.  At no time is this  more  true
     than  when  conducting  Long Distance (LD) BBSing for program up-
     dates or new files.

     There is a tendency for Sysops to put files that have been  ARCed
     and  uploaded  to  them  by  Xmodem  into their download sections
     without checking the file for correct date.  If an ARCed file  is
     transferred  by  Xmodem to a system,  the transfer leaves the ARC
     rounded up to the nearest block and changes the date of the  ARC.
     This  leads  to  confusion,  especially on systems where the file
     description does not include the version number of the program in
     question.  The files within the ARC are, of course, unaffected by
     the  transfer  and their dates are intact but the user cannot run
     ARC v on the file to see the  REAL  date.  This  is  the  Sysop's
     responsibility.

     The  problem is not as prevalent on Fido systems as it is on RBBS
     and other systems that do not support  Telink  or  Kermit.  Since
     Telink and Kermit send the true filename, filesize, and filedate,
     there  is  no  need  to  convert  the  ARCs  back to normal after
     receiving them.  There are still PLENTY of users that  don't  use
     anything  but  Xmodem,  though,  and their uploads need attention
     from the  Sysop  BEFORE  they  are  moved  to  a  download  area,
     particularly, if the R)aw command is available to the user.  When
     I'm in a hurry on LD (and who isn't?),  I use  the  R)aw  command
     whenever  it's  available to check for new filedates and gauge my
     downloading accordingly.

     To avoid the confusion of filedates on ARCs,  the Sysop has  only
     to check the ARC filedate against the internal filedates. If they
     do  not  match,  the  Sysop can bring the ARC into agreement very
     simply by running the Freshen  command  of  ARC.EXE  against  the
     file. To wit:

                           ARC f filename <cr>.

     This  will  write  the file out to the disk,  remove the round up
     block if any,  and restore the ARC filedate to match the dates of
     the  files  within the ARC.  To avoid the possibility of updating
     files within the ARC from  files  in  the  current  directory,  I
     suggest  conducting  these  conversions  in  a  blank  or working
     directory. A blank directory will require at least one dummy file
     to get the re-write going.  Create a dummy file of one line using
     EDLIN  or  the  Copy  CON  <filename> command.  Call it something
     original (like DUMMY.FIL) to avoid matching an existing  filename
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     in  any  ARC.  You must have enough disk space to accommodate the
     filesize in question and the  matching  filesize  of  the  mirror
     image that ARC F is going to create.

     If  every  Sysop  would  take the time to clean up these Xmodemed
     ARCs,  there would never be a question of how new a file is  when
     BBSing. (Version numbers wouldn't hurt either, you guys.)

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     W.R.Hunter/E.S.Hunter
     Fido 109/626

                      On-Line Employment Opportunities

          The Employment Opportunities Listings,  available  from  the
     NOVA_WEG  have been available now for two months and the response
     is good after such a short period of time.  In  case  you  missed
     the  FidoNews  article  introducing  this  FREE  service,   in  a
     nutshell,  we have been gathering  current  employment  vacancies
     from  firms  in/or  closely associated with the computer industry
     around the country and making these positions known  via  FidoNet
     Mail  to  whomever would like to receive this listing and make it
     available to others (user's or sysop's).  It  is  updated  weekly
     and  includes other information such as "How to" conduct your job
     search, and we have been "spot-lighting" different companies each
     week in the computer field.

          Currently theses listings are  available  on  the  following
     Fido boards:

          Net/Node              Board Name              Location
         ==========            =============           ===========
         107/316               Metatek Fido            Toms River,NJ
         107/601               Stone Wall              Boyertown,PA
         138/37                Mac's Revenge           Tacoma, WA
         900/1                 Bits-&-Bytes            Nashville,TN
          18/12                The Rat's Nest          Columbia,SC
         154/5                 GENERIC Crossroads      Milwaukee,WI

          We  understand  that there are other boards currently making
     the listings available by obtaining them from  the  boards  shown
     above.  This we encourage as the more that can benefit from this,
     the better.

          If  there  are  any  other  REGIONAL HOSTS or NET HOSTS that
     would like to make these listing available  to  their  respective
     FidoNodes,  drop  us  a  line via NetMail and we will be happy to
     send the listings to you.  If any individual nodes would like  to
     receive  the listings,  first check with your HOST or COORDINATOR
     to see if they might be  receiving  them  already,  and  if  not,
     contact us directly.

          To  add  to the listings already circulating,  we are making
     available Employment Opportunities in  the  BANKING  AND  FINANCE
     INDUSTRY  beginning the first Monday in July.  If anyone would be
     interested in this listing it will also be available on request.

          Any firms that wish to send a position notice,  please do so
     via NetMail or by U.S.Mail to:

                                W.E.G.Systems
                                P.O. Box 5072
                                Springfield, Va  22150

     Be  sure  your  position  notice  arrives  here by Saturday to be
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     included in the next weeks listings.

          These listing are made available to AID in the job searching
     effort,  and provide another  avenue  for  firms  to  obtain  the
     quality personnel they seek.  GOOD LUCK!

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                               LAST EMBRACE
                               by Rich Gough
                          on Fido 129/26

     David turned the key in the lock and opened the door. Hanging his
     coat  in  the  closet,  he  noticed the  flashing  light  on  his
     telephone  answering  machine.  It was 11 PM -- it had taken a  a
     couple  of  hours longer than he expected to fix  the  hard  disk
     problem  at the trucking company.  Flipping the switch,  he heard
     the messages rewind -- buzzing interuppted by 5 beeps.  He sighed
     -- a computer consultant's work is never done.

     "Hey David,  this is Mike. My subscription to TV Guide ran out --
     can you tell me what's going to be on USA Nightflight tonight?"
     BEEP
     "David,  this is Carol at the Food Warehouse.  I've got a problem
     and I need you to call me back as soon as you can. It's 8 PM."
     BEEP
     "David,  this is Carol again. It's 10 PM and I have three reports
     that I have to get down by tommorrow.  Please come over and  help
     me as soon as you can."
     BEEP
     "David, it's 10:30 PM and I'm really desperate."
     BEEP
     "Damn!"
     BEEP

     David  switched  the machine back to record,  and dialed  Carol's
     number. A busy signal told him that at least she was still there.
     She might even be trying to call him. If he left now, he could be
     there by midnight.

     David knocked on the corrugated metal door and when there was  no
     answer,  the  rolled the sliding door aside and stepped in.  Up a
     narrow flight of stairs, past the fans of the cold room. Stepping
     into the office, he heard a crunch and looked at the floor. There
     were  white  fragments all over the floor  -- someone  must  have
     dropped a coffee cup.  That reminded him - coffee. It looked like
     it  would be a long night.  The coffee maker was still plugged in
     -- he poured himself the last cup.  A sip told him it was too hot
     and too bitter. He set it next to the computer and sat down. Time
     for some detective work to find out what was wrong and fix it.

     "Carol!"  he called.  She must be in the Ladies Room.  "Might  as
     well get to work" he said to himself.

     A glance at the screen told him that she was in the middle of the
     General  Ledger program,  closing out the month of  January.  The
     screen  was frozen -- no keys had any effect.  Nothing to do  but
     switch  the computer off and start again.  As he waited  for  the
     hard  disk to settle,  he looked around.  Carol was big on lists.
     Tacked to the wall was a list of the 100 most popular food items.
     On  the desk was a list of her objectives for the  day.  Accounts
     Payable,  Accounts Recievable and General Ledger were at the  top
     of  the list,  and the only things not crossed out.  He knew from
     experience  that these programs were disk  intensive,  and  could
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     take  hours to run.  He also found the manual to a  multi-tasking
     program  that  could let more than one program run  at  once.  He
     switched the computer on and flipped throught the manual while he
     waited  for  the RAM test to complete.  A look at  Carol's  notes
     showed  what  she  was trying to do -- save time by  running  all
     three reports at the same time.  David knew the problem that must
     have occurred and a few keystrokes proved his conclusion.

     First  he started Accounts Payable,  then created a new task  and
     started  Accounts  Recievable,  then  created a  third  task  and
     started General Ledger.  Hitting a few keys produced no response,
     proving  his  theory  that the system was  locked  in  a  classic
     example of a Deadly Embrace. Programs A and B both need access to
     files  1  and 2.  A file can only be updated by one program at  a
     time.  Program A grabs file 1 while Program B grabs file 2.  Then
     Program  A tries to grab file 2 (which B has locked on to)  while
     Program  B  tries to grab file 1 (which  A  has).  Result  - each
     program  waits for the other to give up its file and no work gets
     done.  With  three programs going at the same time,  the  problem
     would be even worse--crowded together in memory and fighting  for
     the  same files,  it would be a sort of menage a trois.  The only
     solutions  are to avoid running programs that use the same  files
     at the same time.  If you must, make sure all programs open files
     in the same order.

     David restarted the system, and started just the Accounts Payable
     program.  It would take a couple of hours,  but at least it would
     get done.  Noticing the coffee had cooled, he swallowed the whole
     cup at one gulp.  David stood up and walked around the desks.  As
     he passed the cubicle near the door, he saw a high-heeled shoe on
     the floor. Stepping into the cubicle he saw Carol's body sprawled
     on  the  floor.  A touch to the neck told him  she  was  dead--no
     pulse,  and  her  flesh was cooling.  The handle of  a  shattered
     coffee  mug was still held in the fingers.  Pieces had  scattered
     across  the floor under the partition.  On the table next to  the
     body  was a note,  addressed to him.  David was starting to  feel
     numb.  She had despaired over the computer and other problems and
     put  poison in her own coffee pot.  He reached for the phone  but
     ended  up  shivering on the floor.  As he felt the coldness  wash
     over him, he put his arms around Carol's body and hugged her.


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     Christopher Baker
     Metro-Fire Fido, 135/14

              Everything You Wanted to Know About QNEWUSER.BBS
                           but etc., etc., etc...

     The following is an excerpt of a  message  I  received  from  Gee
     Wong, IBM HELP, 1/100, when I asked him to give me the lowdown on
     the use of QNEWUSER in a semi-private system (/p option in Fido).

     QNEWUSER.BBS  is  a questionaire file that Fido uses to query new
     users  on  a  Fido  being  operated  in  the  semi-private  mode.
     QNEWUSER  can  be  used  to display text and/or ask questions and
     follows the language format  detailed  in  the  Fido  manual  for
     creating  a questionaire (QUESTION.BBS).  As the new user answers
     the questions posed by QNEWUSER.BBS, Fido creates a corresponding
     text file called ANEWUSER.BBS.  ANEWUSER can  then  be  used  for
     verification  or  record-keeping  purposes  by the Sysop.  Like a
     QUESTION.BBS questionaire,  QNEWUSER cannot be aborted by the new
     user with Control-C or Control-K, so a Control-B at the beginning
     of  the  file  is not necessary to prevent the user from skipping
     what you WANT him/her to read and answer.

     The following is the gist of the answer I received:

     From: Gee Wong on 107/312, Dance Studio, East Brunswick, NJ

     As for your question on QNEWUSER.  If you use QNEWUSER, Fido will
     perform the following during logon for a new user:

         1) prompt user for name
         2) display contents of NEWUSER1.BBS if this file exists
         3) ask user to pick a password
         4) display the contents of QNEWUSER.BBS and prompt
            user for answers to any questions in this file
         5) prevent NEWUSER2.BBS from being displayed if this
            file exists
         6) prompt user for password
         7) display contents of BULLETIN.BBS if this file exists
         8) put user into Main Section of Fido.

      Forwarded by 135/7, Miami's First Fido, Al Delatorre, 6/3


     Here follows a brief example of the format you can use:

                          * Beginning of Example *

     *
     You cannot abort the following display. Control C & K are
     disabled.

     Follow the instructions completely. Now is a good time to turn on
     your printer or capture file.

     If you have not called this system in the last 60 days, your name
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     and password have been PURGED from the system.  You will have to
     go through the verification process again!

                      New User Verification Questionaire

     You MUST answer EVERY question in order to be verified for
     access.  If a question doesn't apply to you, enter N/A. Do not
     skip answers.  You will NOT be verified unless all the answers
     are given.

     Be VERY careful. Do not hit return until you have made your entry
     on each line. If you hit return before finishing a response, Fido
     will advance to the next line/question. You will have space to
     make corrections at the end of the questionaire. Each line can
     hold up to 65 characters of information.


     What is your Full name (No handles)?
     />
     Where are you calling from (City, ST)?
     />
     What is your HOME telephone number (Area code first)?
     />
     Is this a listed or unlisted number?
     />
     What is your BUSINESS telephone number (Area code first)?
     />
     What is your occupation? (If you are a student, specify the school.)
     />
     What Password did you select?
     />
     What is the name of your Department (optional)?
     />
     What kind of computer are you using?
     />
     State your modem brand, type and speed below (two lines):
     /Modem>
     /Speed>
     What communications program do you normally use for BBSing?
     />
     Why? (You have two lines.)
     />
     />
     What is the BEST time to contact you at Home?
     />
     What is the BEST time to contact you at Work?
     />
     Use the next four lines to, briefly, describe your level of
     Computer skill including languages or operating systems you are
     most familiar with. If you do not need all four lines, hit return
     to go on.
     /Level>
     /OpSys>
     /Langs>
     /Other>

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     How old are you (optional)?
     +6 (1) <18 (2) 18-25 (3) 26-35 (4) 36-50 (5) 51-99 (6) Not saying>
     ?Why not?>

     How did you find out about this BBS? Be specific, you have two
     lines.  If a friend recommended it, NAME the friend. If you saw
     it on a BBS, NAME the BBS. This is NOT optional. (You have two
     lines.)
     />
     />

     Are you a FidoNet Sysop?
     +2 (1) No (2) Yes >
     ?Net/Node >
     Are you a non-FidoNet Sysop?
     +2 (1) No (2) Yes >
     ?Please give system name, location & number >

     If you have any questions, comments, or changes, use the next
     three lines to enter them. If you do not need the space, hit
     return to go on.
     />
     />
     />


     If you have completed this questionaire on a Saturday or Sunday,
     it will take a few days to be verified. The Sysop is off on those
     days.

                             * End of Example *

     The asterisk in the first line  appends  the  user  name  to  the
     ANEWUSER file information.  Within the confines of the prompt and
     question structure,  you can configure the display  to  your  own
     taste.  All  of  the  text  lines without a '/' or '+' or '?' are
     output,  as  is,  to  the  user  when  Fido  puts  him  into  the
     questionaire.  Lines preceeded by a '/' stop the questionaire and
     wait for input or <cr> from the user (note:  line noise can  play
     havoc  with this process and may cause some prompts to be skipped
     without user intervention.).  Lines preceeded by a '+' set  up  a
     multiple   choice  condition.   The  number  following  the  plus
     indicates how many choices  will  be  offered.  The  last  choice
     listed,  when  selected by the user,  prompts Fido to display the
     contents of the line preceeded by the  '?'  and  waits  for  user
     input.  Thus, the LAST choice listed is the one you are trying to
     get amplification  of;  the  other  choices  are  listed  in  the
     ANEWUSER  file but ignored for purposes of user input.  Make SURE
     you list the point you want  more  information  on  as  the  LAST
     choice in that line.

     The  QNEWUSER.BBS  can  be  as  long  or  as  short  as you like.
     Experiment.

     I hope this helps those of you doing it  the  hard  way  (like  I
     was).  Many thanks to Gee Wong for the advice and assistance.
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     John Bekas, 115/212

                               Computer worms
                               --------------

     After seeing two boards in my  net  getting  destroyed  by  those
     nasty programs called WORMS, or by the nasty people who make it a
     habit  of  crashing boards,  I am getting scared.  All the Sysops
     are asking themselves, "How can I stop my board from being next?"
     Well, hopefully someone will figure it out.

     Some reasonable ways of not getting your board crashed are:

     1) By having a close friend,  who doesn't have a hard  drive  try
        it,  and  test  it out for a while.  After a while,  have them
        give you a report on how things went.

     2) Not bugging the users to upload,  because they usually get  so
        mad at the Sysop,  that they don't want to call anymore.  They
        think it is fun to ruin the board,  and make them  feel  sorry
        for asking for uploads.

     3) Finding out about a file before you run it,  because you never
        know what it may be.  The real  dangers  about  this  is  that
        those  people  that make these programs make it look and sound
        like the real program, and then make it turn against you. This
        can be a slight bit of a problem.

     4) Make your system private,  and only allow close  friends,  and
        people who you know are O.K. to have.

     5) NEVER download from a upload area that hasn't been tested!

     6) Download  all your files to a blank floppy,  and use a program
        that will protect your hard drive from being written to.

     Some not so reasonable ways of not getting crashed are:

     1) Don't bother downloading from other boards.

     2) Don't ask the users to upload files.  Get all the files from a
        close friend who had them a while (Public Domain and Freeware,
        please don't pirate!).

     3) Take down your board,  and throw away anything that has to  do
        with  communications.  This  would  of  course be the ultimate
        thing to do, which I doubt any Sysops would want to do.

     I know that you have all heard this before,  and are saying,  "It
     will  never  happen to me..." But talk to the Sysops whose boards
     got destroyed,  and you will find out the real truth behind  that
     phrase.  I  am  sure you thought about it quite a few times,  but
     have never done anything about it.

     Please make sure you are careful of which files you have, and how
     you use them. And remember this short safety tip.
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     =================================================================
                                  COLUMNS
     =================================================================

                  Taking Advantage of Your PC's Hard Disk:
                          Part II, DOS BATch Files

                                Barry Gordon
                      New York Personal Computer, Inc.

     DOS and BATch Files

     Familiarity with DOS is assumed.  However,  it is helpful to  the
     new  user  to include a paragraph or two on BATch files.  The IBM
     PC and DOS work with three different kinds of program or  command
     files:  .EXE,  .COM, and .BAT files.  (BASIC and BASICA work with
     their own .BAS files,  but those are not relevant to the  present
     discussion.)  The .EXE and .COM files give instructions to the PC
     itself.  They are produced by assemblers, compilers, and linkers.
     The .BAT or BATch files are instructions to DOS which you  create
     for  your  own  convenience.  I will discuss a couple of commands
     that you may find convenient in  working  on  your  PC:  the  DOS
     PROMPT command and the PATH command.

     The DOS PROMPT Command

     Just  as  DOS  keeps track of a default disk drive,  it will also
     keep track of each drive's current directory (the  directory  you
     are working in).  Most often,  this directory is the one you tell
     DOS to assume and use when no other is specified.  The DOS prompt
     always has indicated the  default  disk  drive  followed  by  the
     greater-than  symbol:  A>  which  works well for diskette drives.
     With a hard disk,  you will want to know the  directory  you  are
     working  in  (the  current directory) as well.  You can customize
     the prompt to show the current directory  using  the  DOS  PROMPT
     command.  The  command  PROMPT $P$G tells DOS to display the name
     of the current directory whenever  the  prompt  appears  on  your
     screen.  Other,  more elaborate,  prompt variations are possible,
     but $P$G is a useful beginning.

     The DOS PATH Command

     The actual program fetching is accomplished by means of  the  DOS
     PATH  command.  This  command  tells  DOS  where to look for your
     programs (the executable files) when they are not in the  current
     directory.  The overall scheme begins to take shape:  you work in
     the (current) directory containing your data files, and DOS looks
     for the programs you need (in priority sequence)  in  other  sub-
     directories.  Thus,  your  PATH command might look something like
     this:

              PATH C:\anyname1;C:\anyname2;C:\any3

     The PATH command should contain the full  specification  of  each
     sub-directory,  including  the drive designation.  This keeps the
     search path valid even if you should decide to make,  say,  drive
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     A:  the  default  drive temporarily.  Since the root directory is
     not named, it is not included in the PATH command.

     Of  course,   having  to  enter  all  of  this  PROMPT  and  PATH
     information  each time you turn on your PC can become a nuisance.
     The proper way to handle this is to create special BATch files in
     the root directory that store and execute your commands.

     Creating BATch Files

     The most direct way to create  .BAT  files  is  to  use  the  DOS
     ability  to COPY a file directly from the PC keyboard into a disk
     file:

              COPY CON filename.BAT

     where CON is the  DOS  name  for  the  keyboard,  and  "filename"
     represents  the  name  you wish to give your new BATch file.  You
     enter your file contents,  line  by  line,  ending  with  a  line
     containing  ^Z (Control-Z),  which can be entered by pressing the
     Function Key 6 (F6).  As an alternative (though I don't recommend
     it) you could learn to use EDLIN,  a minimal file  editor,  whose
     chief  virtue  is  its  automatic inclusion with the DOS package.
     For serious work of this kind,  a good file  editor  is  a  great
     help.  The IBM Personal Editor is one of the very best.

     The AUTOEXEC and SETPATH BATch Files

     The  AUTOEXEC.BAT  file  is  executed only at startup (unless you
     specifically enter it),  and contains those commands you wish  to
     enter for your convenience in operating your PC.

     A simple version of an AUTOEXEC.BAT file might look like this:

              DATE
              TIME
              PROMPT $P$G
              PATH C:\anyname1;C:\anyname2;C:\any3

     The  first  thing  you may want to do is to move the PATH command
     from the AUTOEXEC.BAT file and put  it  in  its  own  BATch  file
     called  SETPATH.BAT.  The  AUTOEXEC.BAT  would  have  these  four
     lines:

              DATE
              TIME
              PROMPT $P$G
              SETPATH

     Your SETPATH.BAT file would look like this:

              PATH C:\anyname1;C:\anyname2;C:\any3

     Putting the PATH command in the SETPATH.BAT file lets you  modify
     your  program search path any time you wish,  and then restore it
     by getting into the  root  directory  and  entering  the  SETPATH
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     command.

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     William/Eunhee Hunter
     Fido 109/626

                       Computer Industry SpotLight on:

     ELECTRONIC DATA SYSTEMS CORP.  -- Founded in 1962,  EDS has grown
     from  a single employee to a multi-national corporation employing
     more than 13,000 people.  The company is the leading supplier  of
     computer  services  in the following industries:  finance (banks,
     thrifts,  and credit unions),  commercial insurance,  and  health
     care.  Data  processing  services  are  conducted  mainly at five
     large information  processing  centers.  EDS  currently  owns  25
     mainframe computers,  leases 66 more, and operates 12 supplied by
     customers.  A high percentage of the hiring at  EDS  is  for  the
     company's entry-level development programs.  They are looking for
     applicants  with  an  interest  in  technical  careers,  and  are
     curently  recruiting  individuals  with  business  and  technical
     backgrounds.  The  largest  number  of job openings is in systems
     engineering.  EDS ofers a Systems Engineering Development Program
     --  an  18-month  development program involving business exposure
     through on-the-job problem solving with other  EDS  professionals
     and customers.

          Contact:  Dick Morrison, VP Human Resources, Electronic Data
     Systems Corp., 100 Forest Lane, Dallas, TX  75230.

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     William/Eunhee Hunter
     Fido 109/626

                       JOB MARKET RESEARCH - A PRIMER


          For most Americans in the professional and  paraprofessional
     fields,   few  experiences  ever  seem  quite  as  difficult  and
     frustrating as job hunting.  The essential problem, of course, is
     locating suitable opportunities.  For even  today's  "Information
     Age," finding timely and accurate career information has remained
     an   extremely  difficult  problem.   Employment  agencies,   for
     example,  usually have only very incomplete regional information.
     Classified  ads  in  newspapers are another source -- one usually
     relied on very heavily by job seekers -- but this information  is
     also  usually  regional,  as well as incomplete (especially since
     most of the better jobs are never advertised in newspapers).

          Having tried both private and public employment agencies and
     newspaper advertisements -- and presumably, having also exhausted
     their  access  to  information  through  personal  and   business
     contacts  --  many  white-collar job seekers turn to professional
     recruiters (i.e., "headhunters").  Here too,  the result is often
     frustration -- wasted time,  effort,  and usually, a good deal of
     money.  For most job seekers,  such firms provide much advice and
     encouragement and few actual job interviews.

          College students about to graduate -- both from two and four
     year  institutions  --  are  generally  in a much better position
     since they have  their  placement/counseling  offices  to  assist
     them,  though  of  course  alumni usually have access to the same
     services if they choose to  use  them.  But  unfortunately,  most
     students   and  alumni  make  inadequate  use  of  the  resources
     available to them.  There is a tendency  to  view  these  offices
     solely   as   meeting   places   for  interviews  with  corporate
     recruiters.  This is a serious mistake,  for two reasons.  First,
     most  students  will fail to find jobs through campus interviews;
     and second -- perhaps even more important -- most major companies
     do not regard campus interviews as a preferred means  of  contact
     with applicants.  A recent employer survey by The Charoman Group,
     Inc.,  an educational consulting firm, found that only 18 percent
     of major employers believe college placement interviews to be the
     most effective means of contact  with  applicants.  Rather,  most
     companies  preferred that the initial contact be initiated by the
     applicant by means of the most simple and direct method possible:
     a standard resume  and  cover  letter  sent  to  the  appropriate
     official.

          Of  course it remains true that campus interviews -- as well
     as any of the other job hunting methods mentioned  above  --  may
     prove  successful  in  individual cases.  The point is that,  for
     most people,  these methods offer limited prospects  of  success.
     Thus  most  job seekers are well-advised to try another route:  A
     PLANNED,  SYSTEMATIC JOB MARKET RESEARCH EFFORT.  By  this  means
     the  job  seeker  in  effect  takes  the  initiative  in locating
     suitable job openings in his or her field.  Surprisingly,  not  a
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     great  deal  of time is required -- perhaps twenty hours for most
     people.  And the resources needed for  the  research  effort  are
     available in most college placement or counseling offices, and in
     virtually all of the larger public libraries.

          Next  article  will  deal  with the FIRST STEP - CHOOSING AN
     INDUSTRY.

          Distributed via FidoNet BBS by NOVA_WEG Fido 109/626, W.E.G.
     Systems,  P.O.  Box 5072,  Springfield,  VA 22150.  Permission is
     given  to reprint and distribute this article provided no changes
     to its content take place.

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     Fidonews                     Page 22                   7 Jul 1986


     =================================================================
                                  WANTED
     =================================================================

     William Bertholf
     Fido 107/102

     WANTED: a program that will do the following:
     1) read Fido system records to find the FidoNet File path name.
     2) search that directory for FNEWS???.ARC
     3) if not found then set errorlevel to zero (0) and exit to DOS.
     4) for each FNEWS???.ARC found do the following:
       4.1) Move it (not copy) to designated file area
       4.2) append to the end of the end of FILES.BBS the following
           FNEWS???.ARC FidoNewsLetter <date from top right of page 1>
       4.3) delete FIDONEWS.TXT
       4.4) ARC xn FNEWS???.ARC
       4.5) rename the result of 4.4 to FIDONEWS.TXT

     Note: Step 4 is done in ascending order of file name.

     Syntax: FIDONEWS <pathname>

     A more generalized program could auto-shuffle other things also.


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     Fidonews                     Page 23                   7 Jul 1986


                           WANTED - WANTED - WANTED
                                YOUR OPINION

     Since you are reading this in FIDO NEWS you are in some way
     involved with microcomputers (?).  We want, NO WE NEED, your
     opinion.

     Please take a minute to fill out the following questionnaire.

     1. Would you take a VACATION that costs between $2500 and $3500
     per person includes ROUND TRIP air fare to HAWAII, SEVEN LUXURI-
     OUS DAYS CRUISING the HAWAIIAN ISLANDS, SIX SUMPTUOUS MEALS A
     DAY, and all shipboard activities?  _____ YES  _____ no

     2. Would you take the VACATION, if it included HANDS ON MICROCOM-
     PUTER INSTRUCTION covering equipment BASICS, operating systems,
     microcomputer SYSTEM requirements/ORGANIZATION, application
     SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS/ORGANIZATION, training on WORD PROCESSING,
     SPREADSHEET design/management, DATABASE building /management,
     other applications (Graphics, Communications)?
     _____ YES  _____ no

     3. Would you take the VACATION, if the TRAINING was scheduled so
     it did not interfere with CRUISE ACTIVITIES?  _____ YES _____ no

     4. Would you take the VACATION, if it was a PROFESSIONALLY and
     personally ENHANCING experience?  _____ YES _____no

     5. Would you take the VACATION, if you could bring your spouse
     (or who ever) and UP TO 33% on the second traveler? _____ YES
     _____no

     6. Would you take the VACATION, if your part is TAX DEDUCTIBLE?
     ______YES ______no

     7. INTERESTED?  OF COURSE YOU ARE!
                  Send a self-addressed, STAMPED envelope to:

                           Computer Cruise Hawaii
                            C/O Computer Station
                             1500 Kapiolani Blvd
                             Honolulu, Hi 96815

     OR send a FIDO message to SYSOP, FIDO 12/0 at (808) 942-2508 - be
     sure to include your mailing address.

                                DO IT NOW!

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     Fidonews                     Page 24                   7 Jul 1986


                  /**** Citadel system operators! ****/

     I'm  looking  for operators of Citadel or similar  room-oriented
     BBS systems  (such as Citadel-86, StoneHenge, etc.) who would be
     interested in having their systems listed in a national list.

     Send me FidoMail containing:
          System's name
          Phone number
          Baud rate
          Hours of operation
          Sysop's name
          System hardware     (KayPro II, Xerox 820, etc.)
          Operating system
          Code/version number (2.10, 2.11, etc.)

     If you have the source code, let me know where you got it.
     (Such as C Users' Group disks 028 and 029; SIG/M #150; etc.)

     Also,  please indicate whether or not you would be interested in
     contributing  to  a Citadel newletter,  the existance  of  which
     depends on the sort of response I get. Thanks.

                                            Andy Meyer
                                            FidoMail 107/35

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     Fidonews                     Page 25                   7 Jul 1986


     =================================================================
                                 FOR SALE
     =================================================================

                  ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE FOR YOUR PC!

                          SUPERDOTS!  KALAH!

     Professional quality games include PASCAL source!  From  the
     author of KALAH Version 1.6,  SuperDots,  a variation of the
     popular pencil/paper DOTS game,  has MAGIC  and  HIDDEN  DOT
     options.  KALAH  1.7  is  an African strategy game requiring
     skill to manipulate pegs around a playing board.  Both games
     use the ANSI Escape sequences  provided  with  the  ANSI.SYS
     device driver for the IBM-PC,  or built into the firmware on
     the DEC  Rainbow.  Only  $19.95  each  or  $39.95  for  both
     exciting  games!  Please  specify  version  and disk format.
     These games have been written in standard  TURBO-PASCAL  and
     run on the IBM-PC,  DEC Rainbow 100 (MSDOS and CPM), CPM/80,
     CPM/86,  and PDP-11.  Other disk formats are available,  but
     minor customization may be required.

                             BSS Software
                             P.O. Box 3827
                         Cherry Hill, NJ 08034


     For every order placed,  a donation will be made to the Fido
     coordinators!  Also, if you have a previous version of KALAH
     and send me a donation, a portion of that donation will also
     be sent to the coordinators.  When you place  an  order,  BE
     CERTAIN  TO  MENTION  WHERE  YOU  SAW  THE  AD since it also
     appears in PC Magazine and Digital Review.

     Questions and comments can be sent to:

                      Brian Sietz at  Fido 107/17
                      (609) 429-6630    300/1200/2400 baud

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     Fidonews                     Page 26                   7 Jul 1986


              Now available from Micro Consulting Associates!!

     Public Domain collection - 550+ "ARC"  archives  -  20+  megs  of
     software  and  other  goodies,  and that's "archived" size!  When
     unpacked,  you get approximately 28 megabytes worth of all  kinds
     of  software,  from text editors to games to unprotection schemes
     to communications programs, compilers, interpreters, etc...  Over
     55 DS/DD diskettes!!

     This collection is the result of more than 15 months of intensive
     downloads  from  just  about 150 or more BBS's and other sources,
     all of which have been examined,  indexed and archived  for  your
     convenience.  Starting  a  Bulletin Board System?  Want to add on
     to your software base without spending thousands of dollars? This
     is the answer!!!

     To order the library,  send  $100  (personal  or  company  check,
     postal money order or company purchase order) to:

                    Micro Consulting Associates, Fido 103/511
                    Post Office Box 4296
                    200-1/2 E. Balboa Boulevard
                    Balboa, Ca. 92661-4296

     Please allow 3 weeks for delivery of your order.

     Note:  No  profit  is  made  from  the  sale of the Public Domain
     software in this collection.  The price is  applied  entirely  to
     the  cost  of  downloading  the  software  over  the phone lines,
     running a  BBS  to  receive  file  submissions,  and  inspecting,
     cataloguing, archiving and maintaining the files.  Obtaining this
     software yourself through the use of  a  computer  with  a  modem
     using  commercial phone access would cost you much more than what
     we charge for the service...

     Please specify what type of format you would like the disks to be
     prepared on.  The following choices are available:
           - IBM PC-DOS Backup utility
           - Zenith MS-DOS 2.11 Backup Utility
           - DSBackup
           - Fastback
           - ACS INTRCPT 720k format
           - Plain  ol' files (add $50)

     Add $30 if you want  the  library  on  1.2  meg  AT  disks  (more
     expensive  disks).  There  are  no  shipping or handling charges.
     California residents add 6% tax.

     For each sale, $10 will go to the FidoNet Administrators.

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     Fidonews                     Page 27                   7 Jul 1986


                                  SERVTECH

                                     by
                             Rylos Technologies
                          10213 Heron Pond Terrace
                           Burke, Virginia 22015
                        (c) 1986 Rylos Technologies


     o SERVTECH is designed specifically to work with your IBM  PC/XT,
       COMPAQ Deskpro, or COMPAQ Plus

     o SERVTECH will assist you in initial computer setup!

       - Guidelines for computer disassembly

       - Pictorial Guide to switch settings (You tell us what you have
         in your computer, we SHOW you how to set the switches)

     o SERVTECH deciphers error messages!

       - You tell us the problem, we assist you in fixing it. Wherever
         possible,  we  show  you  the  exact  componant  causing  the
         problem!

       - Through a series  of  questions  and  answers  we  will  give
         "probable cause" suggestions to try.

     o SERVTECH is easy to use!

       - Employees  at General Motors say "SERVTECH is perfect for the
         person who has to support their own  XT,  a  must  for  every
         software library."

     To order SERVTECH, send a check or money order for $49.95 to:

                             RYLOS TECHNOLOGIES
                          10213 Heron Pond Terrace
                              Burke, VA. 22015

             ********* SPECIAL NOTICE FOR FIDO USERS *********

     Order a copy of SERVTECH today,  mention you saw the ad on a FIDO
     system or newsletter, and Rylos will donate $5.00 to the IFNA!

     A demonstration version of SERVTECH is available on FIDO  #  603,
     accessible through the PC PURSUIT system.  Call (703) 689-3561 to
     download a copy.

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     Fidonews                     Page 28                   7 Jul 1986


     =================================================================
                                  NOTICES
     =================================================================

                          The Interrupt Stack


     20 Jul 1986
        St. Louis Area Sysops Meeting, to be held at Baker's Acre.
        Net 100 sysops please contact Ben Baker at 100/76 for details
        and directions.

     14 Aug 1986
        Start of the International FidoNet Conference, Colorado
        Springs, Colorado.  Contact George Wing at node 1/10 for
        details.  Get your reservations in NOW!  We'll see you there!

     24 Aug 1989
        Voyager 2 passes Neptune.


     If you have something which you would like to see on this
     calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1/1.

     -----------------------------------------------------------------

     Gruesome George             by Bruce White, 109/612
     +-------------------------------------------------+
     |\                                                |
     | \                                               |
     |  George!!  That dumb dog          In that case, |
     |  has taken over!  Make                woof!     |
     |  your choice: Fido or me.              /        |
     |            _                          / ____\__ |
     |          /  \                        /  |_|  \  |
     |         / oo|\                    _____      |\ |
     |        (_\  |_)                  |  _  |     |  |
     |   _    / _\@'_           ______  | |_| |     |  |
     |  //   / |     |       __(______)_|_____|___  |  |
     | ((   /  | (*) |       ||-----------------||  |  |
     |  \\/  \ |__U__| ______||                 ||  |  |
     |   \   /_ ||\\_  \ {} /||(c) '86 bw       ||  |  |
     |(jm)\____)|_)\_)  \__/ ||-----------------||__|__|
     +-------------------------------------------------+

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                      Computer Training Market Survey

     As a reader of FidoNews you are either a microcomputer user or  a
     microcomputer hobbyist.  Would you be interested in an opportuni-
     ty  to  vacation  in Hawaii,  while expanding your ability to use
     your microcomputer and possibly writing  the  cost  off  of  your
     taxes?

                           COMPUTER CRUISE HAWAII
     Fidonews                     Page 29                   7 Jul 1986


                       MICROCOMPUTER CRUISE VACATION
        PROFESSIONAL KNOWLEDGE EXPANSION - PROFESSIONAL ENHANCEMENT

                               $2500 TO $3500

                                  INCLUDES
                       AIR TRANSPORTATION TO HAWAII
              SEVEN LUXURIOUS DAYS CRUISING THE HAWAIIAN ISLANDS
           ALL SHIPBOARD ACTIVITIES - SIX SUMPTUOUS MEALS EACH DAY

                         MICROCOMPUTER INSTRUCTION
        HIGH HANDS ON COMPONENT - SCHEDULED AROUND CRUISE ACTIVITIES
        EXCELLENT STUDENT INSTRUCTOR/COMPUTER RATIO - INTIMATE GROUP
                             CURRICULUM COVERS
           EQUIPMENT BASICS - OPERATING SYSTEM BASICS - SYSTEM
      REQUIREMENTS/ORGANIZATION - APPLICATION SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS/
     ORGANIZATION - WORD PROCESSING - SPREADSHEETING DESIGN/MANAGEMENT
        DATABASE BUILDING/MANAGEMENT - OTHER APPLICATIONS: GRAPHICS
                               COMMUNICATIONS

        WILL BE A PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY EXPANDING EXPERIENCE

     If the above has peaked your interest or you want to participate;
     send a self addressed stamped envelope to:

                          Computer Cruise Hawaii
                           c/o Computer Station
                           1500 Kapiolani Blvd
                          Honolulu, Hawaii 96815

     OR  a  message  to  FIDO  12/0  at (808) 942-2508 with your name,
     address and FIDO net/node.  We will provide further  details  and
     discount  information  if  you wish to include your spouse in the
     trip only.  Be sure to include your mailing address.

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                      Changing of the Guard in Net 135

     Metro-Fire Fido is now the Net Coordinator and Host for Net  135,
     S-FLorida  Net  (previously Greater Miami Area).  This change was
     effective in Nodelist.164. Many systems are still using Nodelists
     prior to 164 and are having difficulty  sending  traffic  to  Net
     135.  If  you are not up on Nodelist.164 or later,  please go out
     and get one.

     Metro-Fire Fido is 135/14 (135/0) at 305-596-8611,  Miami_FL,  if
     you want to edit your Nodelist.BBS manually.

     Thanks.
     Christopher Baker, 135/14 (135/0)

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     Version 4 of Sched was released 6/27/86 and has been sent
     Fidonews                     Page 30                   7 Jul 1986


     to several nodes across the country.   It is available by
     SEADog file request from node 137/19 or may be downloaded
     from there (pre-registration required - send me your node
     number and a password to use).

     The only change from version 3 is the addition of dynamic
     event setting.   Events may be scheduled for the current
     time and day or for offsets from the current time and
     day.

     Wes Cowley
     Fido 137/19

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