FidoNews · Vol 20, No 2 · 13 Jan 2003
The F I D O N E W S Volume 20, Number 02 13 Jan 2003
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Copyright 2003 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.
Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. INSIDE ................................................... 2
The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2
3. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 3
One hundred years ........................................ 3
Is Fidonet Still Needed? ................................. 5
2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U ........................ 7
4. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER .......................... 9
When God Made Women ...................................... 9
5. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 11
The Divorce .............................................. 11
6. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................... 12
FIDONet Software References .............................. 12
7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 17
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 17
8. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 22
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 22
9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 24
How to Submit an Article ................................. 24
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 26
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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If you find yourself in a hole the first thing to do is stop diggin'.
- Texas Bix Bender
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INSIDE
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The Fidonews at a Glance
From Warren Bonner this week, an article with some U.S. statistics
that gives some perspective on the last "One hundred years". Then we
have some interesting thoughts from former fidonet sysop Scott Royall,
"Is Fidonet Still needed?" -- a real food for thoughts article. Last
contribution, this week, to our general articles section also happens
to be the 15th and last day of our bike trip in Australia, the "2002
Off Centre Rally - The Big U".
In Warren's column he's getting a bit religious on us in a praise
of the women. "When God Made Women" is the headline of that article.
After that last one, the step to one of the jokes Warren sent us,
"The Divorce", isn't so far off, I think...
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GENERAL ARTICLES
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One hundred years
By Warren Bonner
wdbonner@pacbell.net
This ought to boggle your mind, I know it did mine! The year is 1902
.. one hundred years ago ... what a difference a century makes! Here
are some of the U.S. statistics for 1902:
The average life expectancy in the U.S. was 47 years.
Only 14 Percent of the homes in the U.S. had a bathtub.
Only 8 percent of the American homes had a telephone.
A three-minute call from Denver to New York City cost eleven dollars.
There were only 8,000 cars in the U.S., and only 144 miles of paved
roads.
The maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph.
Alabama, Mississippi, Iowa, and Tennessee were each more heavily
populated than California. With a mere 1.4 million residents,
California was only the 21st- most populous state in the Union.
The tallest structure in the world was the Eiffel Tower.
The average wage in the U.S. was 22 cents an hour.
The average U.S. worker made between $200 and $400 per year.
A competent accountant could expect to earn $2000 per year, a dentist
$2,500 per year, a veterinarian between $1,500 and $4,000 per year,
and a mechanical engineer about $5,000 per year.
More than 95 percent of all births in the U.S. took place at home.
Ninety percent of all U.S. physicians had no college education.
Instead, they attended medical schools, many of which were condemned
in the press and by the government as "substandard."
Sugar cost four cents a pound. Eggs were fourteen cents a dozen.
Coffee cost fifteen cents a pound.
Most women only washed their hair once a month, and used borax or egg
yolks for shampoo.
Canada passed a law prohibiting poor people from entering the country
for any reason.
The five leading causes of death in the U.S. were: 1. Pneumonia and
influenza 2. Tuberculosis 3. Diarrhea 4. Heart disease! 5. Stroke
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The American flag had 45 stars. Arizona, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Hawaii,
and Alaska hadn't been admitted to the Union yet.
The population of Las Vegas, Nevada, was 30.
Crossword puzzles, canned beer, and iced tea hadn't been invented.
There was no Mother's Day or Father's Day.
One in ten U.S. adults couldn't read or write. Only 6 percent of all
Americans had graduated high school.
Marijuana, heroin, and morphine were all available over the counter at
corner drugstores. According to one pharmacist, "Heroin clears the
complexion, gives buoyancy to the mind, regulates the stomach and the
bowels, and is, in fact, a perfect guardian of health."
18 percent of households in the U.S. had at least one full-time
servant or domestic.
There were only about 230 reported murders in the entire U.S.
Just think what it will be like in another 100 years. ......It boggles
the mind....! .
Passed on by Bob Crown
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Is Fidonet Still Needed?
By Scott Royall
<royall@conchbbs.com>
I joined Fidonet in the summer of 1986 as 1:106/357. Back then, BBS
were all the rage. It was the first time average people from all over
the world could send messages to each other simply by sitting down at
their desks and typing on these strange machines called computers. Of
course things didn't really start rolling until an unknown named Jeff
Rush invented something he called echomail. That simple little concept
gave us both an economical way to move messages around, and-more
importantly-a vehicle for holding conversations organized by topic.
During the late '80's, it was routine for five to eight megabytes of
compressed messages to flow into the Houston net every twelve hours.
Just getting this mass of mail delivered to the 278 Fidonet BBS
Houston had at its height required a squad of dedicated sysops acting
as distributors. I had the honor of being both a distributor and a NC
during that period.
So much for the walk down memory lane. You may say, "that was then,
this is now." Maybe, but maybe things aren't as different as we
believe. While the Internet has achieved ubiquity, it is not the
universal answer. Most notably, it doesn't have a good facility for
topical discussion. Newsgroups are really a free-for-all where the
only form of topic control is to have a moderator approve every post.
The other method, mailing lists, has its share of limitations as well.
I find it interesting that what we used to call a BBS seems to be
resurfacing on the Internet. They are often called "forums," but they
work just like a BBS right down to the user verification and using
moderators. I run such a site, www.conchbbs.com
<http://www.conchbbs.com/> , although it's just getting started. (Yes,
that's the same domain name I used for my Fidonet BBS.) About the only
thing I haven't noticed these sites doing is sharing messages in an
echo-like manner, and I think that's just a matter of time.
Why would a group of web-based BBS sites share messages? After all,
old-style BBS did it to make topics available over a given
geographical area while managing the cost of long distance telephone
calls, and the Internet doesn't charge by the mile. That's true, but
there is a growing trend among providers of charging customers based
on the amount of data transferred. The cost right now rests with
people like me who are sysops of web-based sites. Web hosts usually
charge both a fixed fee and additional sliding charges if extra
bandwidth is used. Even if I do my own hosting, it is only a matter of
time before my ISP wants to charge based on the amount of their
bandwidth used. This is just basic economic sense, and it is likely to
drive web-based sysops to find ways of maximizing the usage of their
connections just as their telephonic brethren did. That's why I
believe that something similar to web-based echomail is a logical
step.
That statement leaves me with one fundamental aspect of Fidonet to
discuss, and that's the sense of community which made it popular. The
life of my BBS, Conch, curiously paralleled the life of my best
friend, Corby. Corby was a dog, but I wouldn't call him a mere pet. He
was the first to come to terms with the limitations of my physical
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disability, and helped me find ways to get around it. The BBS also
allowed me an opportunity to be seen for my abilities rather than my
disability. Both Corby and the BBS were with me until 2001, although I
could see their decline. When Corby died, so little activity was left
in Net 106 that keeping the BBS up on an aging OS/2 machine seemed
futile. Yet, I must admit that, despite the unending flame-wars among
the upper political levels, I have missed the community of Fidonet.
Just as I now have a new dog, Lilly, who's trying to carry on with
Corby's goodness, perhaps it's time for our virtual friend, Fido, to
be reborn on the Internet.
Scott Royall
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2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U
Submitted by David Drummond, 3:640/305
Day 15 - Sunday 17th August (The Causeway to Bundaberg)
Before we left, we rang Mum and Dad to see how they were getting on,
then rang Rick in Mt Isa Hospital. He is now in the Men's Surgical
Ward, and had just had a shower, so is not gingerly up and about.
They had set his thumb last Friday and were now talking about sending
him back to Brisbane on Thursday or Friday if his lungs improve
sufficiently. Good news indeed.
We left then, through Emu Park to Rockhampton, and on to Mt Larcom and
Calliope. There, we turned inland and took the Many Peaks/Monto road,
expecting another nice dirt ride. To our surprise, t was a fairly new
good sealed road. Apparently there is a new dam to be built in there
shortly, which explains the expensive new road.
We rolled into Many Peaks Pub at lunchtime to see about 30 other bikes
there as well. It turns out they were mostly workers at the smelter
and associated companies. Our meal (two steak sandwiches) took about
1 1/2 hours to come. We sure picked the wrong day to stop there for
lunch!
While we were there, the clouds rolled in and it started to rain. We
were assured that the road wasn't sealed on the Monto side of Many
Peaks, the way we were intending to go. Of course, now I started to
worry about what the rain was doing to the road and any possible creek
crossings.
It stopped raining and we finally got our lunch. After wolfing it
down, we continued on, in the opposite direction to all the other
bikes. The road, thus far, wasn't too bad - just a bit damp in
places. It became seal to climb up the range, then dirt again at the
top. We turned off onto the Kalpower/Gin Gin road which promptly went
into the State Forest on a clay road. The heavens opened up again.
We stopped, put on our wet gear and I, for one, started worrying in
earnest about how slippery the road would be. Most of it had a thin
sprinkling of gravel over it, so I kept away from the shiny parts as
best I could, and managed okay.
This part was very winding and skinny - definitely not a high speed
road. After some time, we climbed over another mountain, then the
road opened out and we could get a bit more speed up. The rain had
finished now, and I just enjoyed the ride.
I fuelled up again at Gin Gin, then we took the Bundaberg Road, turned
off at Bullyard for Bucca. We reached our "Country Estate" weekender
about 4-ish. No hot shower tonight, but a nice comfortable bed after
we devoured the last of our tinned tucker.
Conclusion
We'd done over 5,000km in three weeks - not a real lot by our
standards. David had spent $344 in fuel (average of 16km per litre).
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and I spent $218 (average of 24km per litre). The most we spent for
fuel was $1.30 a litre at Urandangie. The least expensive fuel was in
Mt Isa at $0.819 in Mt Isa for PULP - even cheaper than Brisbane! Not
counting any bike maintenance before or after the trip (including
tyres), we'd spent only about $1,500 for the two of us for the 3 week
period. This includes accommodation, fuel, food and souvenirs (only
two "Dangie Pub" polo shirts). Not too bad I think.
Neither of us had any falls at all - quite different to the 2000 Off
Centre Rally to Old Mornington Bush Camp in the Kimberley. So neither
bike has been damaged. That makes it a successful trip, in my view.
Next year, for something completely different, we're planning to go
"trekking" in New Zealand with Rick. Then the following year will be
Innamincka ...
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OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER
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When God Made Women
wdbonner@pacbell.net
By the time the Lord made women, he was into his sixth day of working
overtime. An Angel appeared and said, "Why are you spending so much
time on this one?". And the Lord answered and said, "Have you seen
the spec sheet on her? She has to be completely washable, but not
plastic, have 200 movable parts, all replaceable, run on black coffee
and leftovers, have a lap that can hold three children at one time,
have a kiss that can cure anything from a scraped knee to a broken
heart, and have six pairs of hands."
The Angel was astounded at the requirements for this one. "Six pairs
of hands! No Way!", "And that's just on the standard model?" the Angel
asked.
The Angel tried to stop the Lord. "This is too much work for one day.
Wait until tomorrow to finish."
"But I can't!", the Lord protested, "I am so close to finishing this
creation that is so close to my own heart. She already heals herself
when she is sick AND can work 18 hour days."
The Angel moved closer and touched the woman, "but you have made her
so soft, Lord." "She is soft", the Lord agreed, "but I have also made
her tough. You have no idea what she can endure or accomplish." "Will
she be able to think?", asked the Angel.
The Lord replied, "Not only will she be able to think, she will be
able to reason, and negotiate."
The Angel then noticed something and reached out and touched the
woman's cheek. "Oops, it looks like you have a leak with this model. I
told you that you were trying to put too much into this one."
"That's not a leak," the Lord objected, that's a tear!" "What's the
tear for?" the Angel asked. The Lord said, "The tear is her way of
expressing her joy, her sorrow, her pain, her disappointment, her
loneliness, her grief, and her pride."
The Angel was impressed. "You are a genius, Lord. You thought of
everything, for women are truly amazing." Women have strengths that
amaze men. They carry hardships, they carry burdens but they hold
happiness, love and joy.
They smile when they want to scream. They sing when they want to
cry. They cry when they are happy and laugh when they are nervous.
They fight for what they believe in. They stand up for injustice.
They don't take "no" for an answer when they believe there is a better
solution.
They go without so their family can have. They go to the doctor with a
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frightened friend. They love unconditionally. They cry when their
children excel and cheer when their friends get awards. They are happy
when they hear about a birth or a new marriage. Their hearts break
when a friend dies. They have sorrow at the loss of a family member,
yet they are strong when they think there is no strength left. They
know that a hug and a kiss can heal a broken heart.
Women come in all sizes, in all colors and shapes. They'll drive, fly,
walk, run or e-mail you to show how much they care about you.
The heart of a woman is what makes the world spin! They bring joy and
hope. They give compassion and ideals. They give moral support to
their family and friends. Women have a lot to say and a lot to give.
I think it is time we men acknowledged our women and Mothers! Take
them out to dinner and have a good time, you can let them know that
they are Special, and essential in your world, as they are the gravity
that holds it together and spins it in the sunlight!
Ol'wdb
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CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES
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The Divorce
By Warren Bonner
wdbonner@pacbell.net
A judge was interviewing a woman regarding her pending divorce, and
asked, "What are the grounds for your divorce?"
She replied, "About four acres and a nice little home in the middle of
the property with a stream running by."
"No," he said, "I mean what is the foundation of this case?"
"It is made of concrete, brick and mortar," she responded.
"I mean," he continued, "What are your relations like?"
"I have an aunt and uncle living here in town, and so do my husband's
parents."
He said, "Do you have a real grudge?"
"No," she replied, "We have a two-car carport and have never really
needed one."
"Please," he tried again, "is there any infidelity in your marriage?"
"Yes, both my son and daughter have stereo sets. We don't necessarily
like the music, but the answer to your questions is yes."
"Ma'am, does your husband ever beat you up?"
"Yes," she responded, "about twice a week he gets up earlier than I
do."
Finally, in frustration, the judge asked, "Lady, why do you want a
divorce?"
"Oh, I don't want a divorce," she replied. "I've never wanted a
divorce. My husband does. He said he can't communicate with me!!"
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs provided by FidoTel.com
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 | Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
18/500 | Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
103/5 | Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c
103/301 | Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 | Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 | Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 | Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 768k | FREE
106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
134/11 | Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 19 13 Jan 2003
aDSL, 60 | n/c
138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c
140/1 | Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c
153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ???
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c
218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c
220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c
229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? |
229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c
250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c
261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c
275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c
323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
393/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c
379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c
2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c
2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c
2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3634/12 | Mark Lewis |FTP,VMoT,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c
3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c
28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c
47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c
201/505 | Göran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c
211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c
221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c
255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c
263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c
280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c
280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE, BinkP | 128k | n/c
292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c
341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | |
341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | |
343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | |
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | |
348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | |
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c
774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 4
801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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Zone 6
65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free
653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free
654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free
654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free
--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* TX = TransX
* NFS = Linux Networking
* ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
* QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
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Fidonet oriented news servers
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news.osirusoft.com
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nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro
Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted)
irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido
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SPECIAL INTEREST
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Nodelist Stats
Input nodelist nodelist.010
size 1026.5kb
date 2003-01-10
The nodelist has 9136 nodes in it
and a total of 11887 non-comment entries
including 6 zones
60 regions
451 hosts
631 hubs
admin overhead 1148 ( 12.57 %)
and 964 private nodes
309 nodes down
330 nodes on hold
off line overhead 1603 ( 17.55 %)
Speed summary:
>9600 = 724 ( 7.92 %)
9600 = 7928 ( 86.78 %)
(HST = 172 or 2.17 %)
(CSP = 1 or 0.01 %)
(PEP = 11 or 0.14 %)
(MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
(HAY = 1 or 0.01 %)
(V32 = 4296 or 54.19 %)
(V32B = 438 or 5.52 %)
(V34 = 5235 or 66.03 %)
(V42 = 4327 or 54.58 %)
(V42B = 460 or 5.80 %)
2400 = 92 ( 1.01 %)
1200 = 7 ( 0.08 %)
300 = 385 ( 4.21 %)
ISDN = 883 ( 9.67 %)
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File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems
----------------------------------------------------------
XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3192
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
Xenia
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XB Binkleyterm 2.0 7
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 11
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XP Seadog 6
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XR Opus 1.03 48
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XW Fido >12M 366
Tabby
KittenMail
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 4074
Frontdoor 1.99b
Intermail 2.01
T-Mail
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None QMM 1432
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CrashMail capable = 2876 ( 31.48 %)
MailOnly nodes = 4960 ( 54.29 %)
Listed-only nodes = 714 ( 7.82 %)
Other = 586 ( 6.41 %)
[Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
[ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]
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