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FidoNews · Vol 23, No 52 · 25 Dec 2006

     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 23, Number 52             25 Dec 2006 
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     | |The newsletter of the | |                                         |
     | |  FidoNet community.  | | Netmail attach to (POTS):               |
     | |                      | |          Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-960447) |
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     | (________)       (jm)    |                    -- JOSEPH PULITZER   |
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                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  2
        The IP problem  ...........................................  2
     3. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN  ..........................  4
        Risgrynsgröt  .............................................  4
     4. BEST OF FIDONET  ..........................................  5
        Moderating  ...............................................  5
     5. ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................  6
        FidoNet Software References  ..............................  6
     6. SPECIAL INTEREST  ......................................... 11
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 11
     7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 13
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 13
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 15
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     Most persons would succeed in small things if they were not troubled
     with great ambitions.

                  -- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow


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                             GENERAL ARTICLES
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                          The IP problem
                      By Matt Bedynek, 1:106/1

     The cries of modem negotiations echoing through the hallway has now
     been replaced by the silence of the TCP/IP three way handshake.
     And, still, fidonet coordination has failed to update policy.  What
     disturbs me the most is that none seem concerned with this.  It
     seems that when people cannot agree on how to best implement the
     IP standard that the discussion falls to the wayside and we remain
     stranded on the derserted island known as P4.  What does it take to
     find a solution and compromise?   Why must we give in so easily?

     I am a regional coordinator, therefore, my hands somewhat limited.
     I implement IP connectivity in my region to the best of my ability,
     that which serves the interests of my region to promote growth and
     reduce attrition.  Unfortunately, these are using standards which
     are somewhat unoffical as far as the whole of fidonet is concerned
     and that are loosly agreed upon.  But, anything less would hinder
     the prosperity of the region.  There are others in other parts of
     the world that do not agree with how things are done here, and I can
     understand how they feel.  But, I believe that we all share the
     blame, in part.  Those who bend practice and those who do nothing to
     establish a new one.

     My position is this:  1) We have to allow any node to be listed as
     POTS or ION or both.  But we also have a duty to protect those who
     might incur costs by misdial.  We can also agree that with the wide
     array of fido technology for IP that ION is a viable and integral
     part of fidonet.  -unpublished- without 'Pvt' has undergone a lot
     of testing.  We cannot test all software but the network has reached
     a critical point such that some things might have to be broken to
     move foward.  -unpublished- can even be used on coordinator entries
     and provides a nice compromise.  2)  We need to agree on a single
     method for POTS and IP.  POTS has FTS-1 but this is outdated and
     needs to be updated.  All modern mailers support newer standards
     (EMSI).  For IP, BinkP is the most popular and should be the
     standard.  Those who run telnet gripe when we say BinkP should be the
     IP minimum standard but those people ironically also run BinkP
     anyway.  Nothing says you can't fly flags indicating telnet support
     or that you can no longer run it.  3) All nodes should have a minimum
     of one or the other.  Nodes that cannot be reached directly at all,
     why are they not listed as points?

     Even as more of us turn to IP because of cost, availability of
     broadband, and outright simplicity, the most that has happened within
     the upper levels of fidonet has been arguements over the IC position
     and a few other trivial matters.  Therefore, I put the question to
     you: what can we do to find a solution?  And, would you be satisfied
     with methods you dont necessarily agree upon up front just so we can
     pass the first hurdle?  And, lastly, why must people make concerted
     efforts to kill the discussion altogether when they cannot get their
     way entirely?
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                      FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN
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                      Risgrynsgröt (rice porridge)
                       By Björn Felten, 2:203/2

     This is a classic Christmas dish in Sweden, but naturally it's a
     dainty dish any time of the year. The kids love it. Make a big batch,
     it'll keep several days in the fridge without problem.

     For 2 servings:

     1 dl rice
     2 dl water
     2 tbsp (30 ml) butter

     3 dl milk
     1 pc cinnamon (whole)
     1 tbsp (15 ml) sugar
     1 tsp (5 ml) salt

     Put the oven on 120 centigrade.

     Let the rice, water and butter simmer on really slow heat for 10
     minutes.

     Stir down the milk and the rest of the ingredients and bring to a
     boil.

     Now let it cook in the oven for 40 minutes without stirring. You can
     of course keep cooking it on the stove, but then it's a bit tricky to
     prevent the porridge from burning.

     Serve with milk; sprinkle with sugar and cinnamon powder.


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                              BEST OF FIDONET
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                          Moderating
                   By: Matt Bedynek, 1:106/1
                  (forwarded by Björn Felten)

     For any degree of moderation to work, the users must either respect or
     fear the moderator.  A user who respects himself and the moderator
     will likely never need to be moderated.  That user may occasionally
     slip up but a polite reminder is all it takes for common sense and
     decency to resume it course.  A person who has no self respect often
     requires a third party to act as their conscience and intervene at
     every turn can only be moderated through fear of losing their access.

     If that fear is eliminated you have people swearing all sorts of vile
     utterances, attacking one another, including any image of authority.
     Think of Kohlberg's theory of moral development, if you're familiar
     with psychology.  To me, it seems, those demanding someone moderate
     them by shouting "hey, asshole, moderate me!" are saying a lot about
     themselves and their personality, and I wonder if they realize how
     negative it really is.

     You and those among you who share the concept this moderator is bad
     could always go after them instead of attacking the moderator.
     Perhaps you all could use a "social contract" to exact a "user
     instituted feed cut"; imagine if you will, someone who is so bad that
     you call agree to simply deny access to your system for a feed?
     Hmmmm... Isn't that what a feed cut basically is anyway?


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                 ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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                    -=:{ FidoNet Software Reference }:=-

         Type: M=Mailer  T=Tosser  B=BBS  D=Door  C=Comm/Terminal
               P=Points  E=Editor  I=Internet  U=Utility  ?=Info

     .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -.
     |Software: Author     |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes      Help Node|
     `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -'

      Argus                |MI   |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/  2:469/84
                           |     | argus@ritlabs.com  Tel: 373-2-246889
                           |     | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001

      BinkleyTerm XE       |M    |http://btxe.sourceforge.net     1:1/102
                           |     | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998

      BinkD                |MI   |http://2f.ru/binkd/
                           |     | maloff@corbina.net
                           |     | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 (Outdated)

      FIDO-Deluxe IP       |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280
       Michael Haase       |     | m.haase@gmx.net
                           |     | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003

      FrontDoor, FD/APX:   |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se          2:201/330
       Definite Solutions  |     | sales@defsol.se                1:1/101
                           |     | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX

      Husky Project        |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/
                           |     | v1.4 RC2 on Sep 22nd 2003

      Radius               |MI   |http://radius.pp.ru           2:5012/38
      (based on Argus)     |     | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463
                           |     | Last Release: v4.010 on Jan 3nd 2005

      Taurus               |MI   |http://taurus.rinet.ru (Russian) 2:461/70
                           |     |http://www.fidotel.com/taurus (English)
      (based on Radius)    |     | E-mail: taurus@rinet.ru
                           |     | v5.000 alpha on Oct 11th 2004

      Tmail                |MI   |http://www.tmail.spb.ru  v2608
                           |     | Website is in Russian only

      WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
       Net Server, Platinum|     | sales@santronics.com
       Xpress: Santronics  |     | Tel: (305) 248-3204
       Software, Inc.      |     | AUP 451.1 on April 26th 2004
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      Fidogate             |TUI  |http://www.fidogate.org
                           |     | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net  v4.4.10

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      FMail                |T    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org
                           |     | support@fmail.nl.eu.org  v1.60

      JetMail: JetSys      |TU   |http://www.jetsys.de  js@jetsys.de
       (ATARI ST only)     |     | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000

      Squish               |T    |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
                           |     | Lanuis site redirects to above
                           |     | Squish is part of Maximus.

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      BBBS                 |BI   |http://www.bbbs.net  b@bbbs.net
                           |     | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999     2:22/222

      ELEBBS: The Elevator |B    |http://www.elebbs.com
       Software Production |     | elebbs@elebbs.com
                           |     | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002

     EZYCom BBS            |BT   |http://ezycom.sytes.net
                           |     |http://members.westnet.com.au/centuryp/
                           |     | ezycom@westnet.com.au    3:690/682
                           |     | v2.0 on 3 May 2003

      Hermes II Project    |B    |http://www.hermesii.org
                           |     | info@HermesII.org  v3.5.9 Beta Final

      Maximus BBS          |B    |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
                           |     | v3.03
                           |     |Archives back online at:
                           |     |http://maximus.outpostbbs.net/

      MBSE BBS:            |BI   |http://mbse.sourceforge.net  2:280/2802
       Michiel Broek       |     | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
                           |     | v0.60.0 on June 5th 2004

      Mystic BBS           |B    |http://www.mysticbbs.com
                           |     | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001

      Nexus BBS            |B    |http://www.nexusbbs.net
                           |     | groberts@nexusbbs.net
                           |     | v0.99.41-Beta on Oct 16th 2002
                           |     | [Note: No Longer under active
                           |     |  development.]

      Proboard BBS         |B    |http://www.proboard.be
                           |     | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002

      RemoteAccess BBS:    |B    |http://www.rapro.com            1:1/120
       Bruce Morse         |     | bfmorse@rapro.com
                           |     | v2.62.2SW

      Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B    |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
       Creek Software      |     | MDWoltz@aol.com             1:1/150
                           |     | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999

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      Synchronet BBS       |BT   |http://www.synchro.net
                           |     | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
                           |     | v3.10L Beta

      Telegard BBS         |B    |http://www.telegard.net
                           |     | support@telegard.net
                           |     | v3.09g2 SP4
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      Atlantis Software    |D    |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/
                           |     | Last Update: August 2004

      Cheepware            |DU   |http://outpostbbs.net
       Sean Dennis         |     | sean@outpostbbs.net         1:18/200

      DDS (Doorware        |D    |http://www.doorgames.org     1:2404/201
       Distribution System)|     | ruth@doorgames.org
       Ruth Argust         |     |

      DoorMUD              |D    |http://doormud.com
                           |     | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002
                           |     | Website is down after
                           |     | past the splash page.

      Jibben Software      |D    |http://www.jibbensoftware.com
                           |     | scott@jibben.com
                           |     | 1995-99 Release dates

      John Dailey Software |D    |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com
                           |     | support@johndaileysoftware.com

      Shining Star         |D    |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
                           |     | nannette@shiningstar.net

      Sunrise Doors:       |D    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
       Al Lawrence         |     | al@sunrisedoors.com
                           |     | Tel: (404) 256-9518

      The Brainex System   |D    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
                           |     | stanley@brainex.com  1994-99 Releases

      Trade Wars           |D    |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
                           |     | jpritch@eisonline.com
                           |     | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002

      Vagabond Software:   |D    |http://www.vbsoft.org        1:124/7013
       Bryan Turner        |     | vagabond@vbsoft.org
                           |     | last update: Jul 17th 2002

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      APoint               |PI   |http://www.apoint-mail.de
                           |     |http://www.apoint-mail.de/indexe.htm
                           |     | (English Version)
                           |     | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de
                           |     | v1.25                   2:2426/1210.13
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      CrossPoint (XP)      |P    |http://www.crosspoint.de (German Only)
                           |     | pm@crosspoint.de  v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999

      FreeXP               |P    |http://www.freexp.de         2:2433/460
                           |     | support@freexp.de
                           |     | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot)

      OpenXP/32            |PI   |http://www.openxp.com        2:248/2004
                           |     |  (Site is in German Only)
                           |     | mk@openxp.de  v3.8.15 Beta Feb 10th 2004
                           |     | Download Page comes back 404 not found.

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      GoldEd+              |E    |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/   2:203/6600
                           |     | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003

      SqEd32               |E    |http://www.sqed.de
                           |     | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999

      TimEd                |E    |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet
                           |     | mail@ozzmosis.com            /timed
                           |     | v1.11.a5 in March 2003      3:633/267

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      GiGo                 |UI   |http://www.gigo.com
                           |     | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997

      Internet Rex:        |UI   |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
       Charles Cruden      |     | telnet://xanadubbs.ca       1:342/806
       (Khan Software)     |     | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001

      TransNet             |UI   |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
                           |     | transnet@ressl.com.ar
                           |     | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998

      TransX: Multiboard   |UI   |http://www.start.ca/software/multiboard
       Communications, Inc.|     | Unsure about support now but Free Keys
                           |     | are now available.  Donations accepted.
                           |     | v3.5 (Note: KeyGen is a Windows Program)

      Ifmail               |UI   |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net
                           |     | crosser@average.org         2:5020/230
                           |     | Ifmail is a FTN <-> E-Mail/News Gateway
                           |     | Program.

      Meltdown-BBS         |UI   |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/
                           |     | meltdown-bbs.project.petkan
                           |     |                       @spamgourmet.com
                           |     | Fido:                       2:350/5
                           |     | Meltdown-BBS is an FTN <->
                           |     | Web/PHP/MySQL BBS forum system.

      MakeNL               |U    | http://hub2000.darktech.org/makenl
                           |     | fidonet.hub2000 [at] gmail [dot] com
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                           |     | Fido:                       1:229/2000
                           |     | FidoNet Nodelist Processor

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      National BBS List    |?    | http://www.usbbs.org

      Hispanic FIDO/BBS's  |?    | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/
       (in Spanish only)   |     |  (Extensive software & BBS Listings)

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      File Archives:

       http://archives.thebbs.org             http://www.filegate.net
       http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org         http://www.juge.com
       http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/        http://garbo.uwasa.fi
       http://www.simtel.net                  http://wuarchive.wustl.edu
       http://www.bbsfiles.com                http://hobbes.nmsu.edu

      Note: most also provide FTP access
            (use ftp:// instead of http:// above)

     *=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*

      Please send corrections & additions to: Robert Couture, 1:229/2000
                    E-Mail: rpa4email (at) rogers (dot) com
                         Telnet: runekeep.darktech.org
                 (Leave Feedback as Guest or create an account)

         Emeritus: Ben Ritchey, Todd Cochrane, Frank Vest, Peter Popovich

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                             SPECIAL INTEREST
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                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.356
                size  660.5kb
                date  2006-12-22

      The nodelist has   5501 nodes in it
        and a total of   7380 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           46 regions
                          332 hosts
                          377 hubs
         admin overhead   761 ( 13.83 %)

                    and   653 private nodes
                          209 nodes down
                          256 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1118 ( 20.32 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    453 (  8.23 %)
                9600 =   4303 ( 78.22 %)
                              (HST  =   83 or   1.93 %)
                              (CSP  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (PEP  =    1 or   0.02 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.02 %)
                              (V32  = 2181 or  50.69 %)
                              (V32B =  130 or   3.02 %)
                              (V34  = 2964 or  68.88 %)
                              (V42  = 2474 or  57.49 %)
                              (V42B =  138 or   3.21 %)
                2400 =     40 (  0.73 %)
                1200 =      5 (  0.09 %)
                 300 =    700 ( 12.72 %)

                ISDN =    383 (  6.96 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             1652
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
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      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 7
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                        2
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          2
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      26
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     217
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                2275
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1320
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   1984 ( 36.07 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   3065 ( 55.72 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    450 (  8.18 %)
      Other             =      2 (  0.04 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm]
      [        Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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                           FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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                    Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability

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     | Editor:        Björn Felten, 2:2/2                             |
     | Columnists:    Frank Vest - Frank's Column                     |
     |                Thom LaCosta - Fidonet Related Websites         |
     |                Robert Couture - Fidonet Software Listing       |
     |                Daryl Stout - Telnet BBS Guide                  |
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     |       Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince         |
     |       Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees,       |
     |       Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg, Henk Wolsink,         |
     |       Doug Meyers, Warren D. Bonner, Frank L. Vest             |
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