FidoNews · Vol 24, No 1 · 01 Jan 2007
The F I D O N E W S Volume 24, Number 01 01 Jan 2007
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Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. MATT'S COLUMN - MATT BEDYNEK ............................. 2
The integrity of mail .................................... 2
3. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN .......................... 4
Terrence's Hoppin' John .................................. 4
4. ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................ 6
FidoNet Software References .............................. 6
5. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 11
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 11
6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 13
How to Submit an Article ................................. 13
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 15
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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You can make more friends in two months by becoming interested in
other people than you can in two years by trying to get other people
interested in you.
-- Dale Carnegie
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MATT'S COLUMN - MATT BEDYNEK
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The integrity of mail
By Matt Bedynek, 1:106/1
As a mail mover, one must do whatever it takes to ensure the smooth
operation of the network at the same time maximize the propagation of
content. We cannot allow ourselves to become overzealous, nor, under
estimate the vital role we play or the level of responsibility we
shoulder.
We must make decisions that compromise between quality and quantity.
For example, decisions like maximum message size have far reaching
consequences than our own system. Many of us are still active and
routinely update our hardware and software that extend our
capabilities far beyond our counterparts who do not. Those
counterparts, our colleagues, may be sysops who simply do not have the
time to invest in changing software, or, they are stranded on a desert
island without the promise of updates for their favorite platform,
that despite these limitations still work well for the scope in which
they were designed.
For example, I run the husky software (hpt and htick) to handle my
echomail and files. Hpt can handle messages the size of available
memory and htick can handle long file names. But, having been a fan
of fido software, and used or evaluated every widely used software
package, most of which are dead or dying, I can say that their
limitations are more restrictive for the needs of the era in which
they were designed. Moreover, while some of these software packages
may have limits similar to mine, the operator may have chosen for
whatever reason to not enable them.
Today, some argue fidonet is no longer as tightly restricted in that
there is no originating point for content. I agree with that fully.
Fidonet is a peer-to-peer broadcast network in which traffic is passed
on. And, pride or no pride, whether some of us admit it or not, cheap
availability of 24/7 IP connectivity has opened the door for anyone to
move mail. Unfortunately, there is no litmus test for those who
volunteer to move mail that says they will uphold any doctrine or
social contract to ensure the quality of the content they forward into
the stream or take responsibility for any problems that originate from
their links.
If such software, capable or incapable, configured or not, receives a
message that tests its upper limit, it might either sideline the
message, the entire packet, or worse, freeze the system of the node
processing it. If my node forwards you a packet containing 30
messages and one of them is too large for your system to handle the
likely result is that the entire packet is lost and degradation of
quality the result. The damage resulting will be far worse to the
system than to the pride of the hub operator when he is called out for
failing to place checks on the traffic he forwards.
Yes, we are a peer-to-peer network, but hubs still play a vital role
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in that they are focal points for the traffic the pass. They have an
obligation to find, isolate, and notify others of problems. If this
is not possible, they should attempt to fix those problems themselves
for the benefit of the network. Sure, in the past, we could simply
blow people off and tell the operator of the system "I will not pass
your broken messages, either switch software or have your messages
lost". Today, we cannot afford to do this. I adopt the attitude if I
can save one single message that contributes to the continuation of
the network, I have done my good deed for the day. But, at the same
time, as one hub operator to another, while I will notify my
colleagues of the problem, I do not have an obligation to fix their
system. Collaboration is fine, but if, as a hub operator, one does not
have what it takes to make the cut, they should not shoulder the
burden of handling traffic for other nodes. They do a disservice to
the network and those they forward traffic for.
If, as a hub operator, you cannot resolve issues on your own, then
perhaps you shouldn't have volunteered.
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FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN
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Terrence's Hoppin' John
By: Carol Shenkenberger, 6:757/1
> Hi Bjorn!
> A late submission, too late I bet for new years. Oh well.
Hi Carol,
Betcha it aint! :)
Below is a traditional New Years meal, served in the South portion of
the USA. It's made at all times of the year but is especially meaty at
New Years. Additional broth may be added as it cooks.
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
Title: Terrence's Hoppin' John
Categories: Xxcarol, Main dish, Beans
Yield: 16 Servings
4 lb Chopped virgina salt ham
1 lb Dry black-eyed peas
1 c Dry rice
8 c Chicken broth
6 ea Tomatos, big beefeaters chop
16 c Chopped Collard greens
3 c Chopped onions w/greens
1 tb Vinegar
4 sm Hot peppers, chopped fine
1 tb Black pepper
3 ea Green Peppers, chopped
This one is from a neighbor. It comes from his ancestors who lived
in a sharecropper place after the US civil war ended but he says it
dates back to when his family were slaves on a big plantation in
Georgia. While no longer slaves or sharecroppers, the recipe has
carried down and shows the unique accent of one with a need to feed a
big family in an economical but tastey way. It's adapted he says to
use 'Virginia Ham' now but used to be salt pork of the inexpensive
kind. The veggies, all came from the home plot on the farm back then.
He says there is an alternate version, not the same in taste, which
he lacks measurements for but from the earliest family history they
have. In it, you omit the onions and black pepper but add 'Taro'
(American sweet potato will do) and crushed peanuts.
Now to cook this, you soak the beans the night before. He said,
after washing the dishes. Chop the veggies (for the collards, you want
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only the greens and none of the stems). The green onion tops and
green peppers were seasonal and omitted when not available. In winter
when the collards werent available, they were omitted or the
'Taro/peanut' version was made when he was a kid. When chicken or
other poultry carcasses werent available to make the stock, the water
from boiling vegetables was used in it's place.
Add all to a pot, after rinsing the soaked black-eyed peas off in
fresh water. Set to a low boil, adding water as needed. The type of
rice and size of the beans will make you either need to add more
stock, or rice as you go along.
From the kitchen of: A friend of xxcarol's
MMMMM
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ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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-=:{ FidoNet Software Reference }:=-
Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal
P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info
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|Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node|
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Argus |MI |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84
| | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889
| | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001
BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102
| | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998
BinkD |MI |http://2f.ru/binkd/
| | maloff@corbina.net
| | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 (Outdated)
FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280
Michael Haase | | m.haase@gmx.net
| | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003
FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330
Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101
| | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX
Husky Project |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/
| | v1.4 RC2 on Sep 22nd 2003
Radius |MI |http://radius.pp.ru 2:5012/38
(based on Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463
| | Last Release: v4.010 on Jan 3nd 2005
Taurus |MI |http://taurus.rinet.ru (Russian) 2:461/70
| |http://www.fidotel.com/taurus (English)
(based on Radius) | | E-mail: taurus@rinet.ru
| | v5.000 alpha on Oct 11th 2004
Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608
| | Website is in Russian only
WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com
Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204
Software, Inc. | | AUP 451.1 on April 26th 2004
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Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org
| | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.10
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FMail |T |http://fmail.nl.eu.org
| | support@fmail.nl.eu.org v1.60
JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de
(ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000
Squish |T |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
| | Lanuis site redirects to above
| | Squish is part of Maximus.
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BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net
| | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222
ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com
Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com
| | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002
EZYCom BBS |BT |http://ezycom.sytes.net
| |http://members.westnet.com.au/centuryp/
| | ezycom@westnet.com.au 3:690/682
| | v2.0 on 3 May 2003
Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org
| | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final
Maximus BBS |B |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
| | v3.03
| |Archives back online at:
| |http://maximus.outpostbbs.net/
MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802
Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
| | v0.60.0 on June 5th 2004
Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com
| | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001
Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net
| | groberts@nexusbbs.net
| | v0.99.41-Beta on Oct 16th 2002
| | [Note: No Longer under active
| | development.]
Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be
| | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002
RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120
Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com
| | v2.62.2SW
Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150
| | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999
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Synchronet BBS |BT |http://www.synchro.net
| | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
| | v3.10L Beta
Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net
| | support@telegard.net
| | v3.09g2 SP4
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Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/
| | Last Update: August 2004
Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net
Sean Dennis | | sean@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200
DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201
Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org
Ruth Argust | |
DoorMUD |D |http://doormud.com
| | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002
| | Website is down after
| | past the splash page.
Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com
| | scott@jibben.com
| | 1995-99 Release dates
John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com
| | support@johndaileysoftware.com
Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
| | nannette@shiningstar.net
Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com
| | Tel: (404) 256-9518
The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
| | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases
Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
| | jpritch@eisonline.com
| | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002
Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013
Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org
| | last update: Jul 17th 2002
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APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de
| |http://www.apoint-mail.de/indexe.htm
| | (English Version)
| | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de
| | v1.25 2:2426/1210.13
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CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de (German Only)
| | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999
FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de 2:2433/460
| | support@freexp.de
| | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot)
OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004
| | (Site is in German Only)
| | mk@openxp.de v3.8.15 Beta Feb 10th 2004
| | Download Page comes back 404 not found.
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GoldEd+ |E |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/ 2:203/6600
| | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003
SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de
| | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999
TimEd |E |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet
| | mail@ozzmosis.com /timed
| | v1.11.a5 in March 2003 3:633/267
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GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com
| | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997
Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806
(Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001
TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
| | transnet@ressl.com.ar
| | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998
TransX: Multiboard |UI |http://www.start.ca/software/multiboard
Communications, Inc.| | Unsure about support now but Free Keys
| | are now available. Donations accepted.
| | v3.5 (Note: KeyGen is a Windows Program)
Ifmail |UI |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net
| | crosser@average.org 2:5020/230
| | Ifmail is a FTN <-> E-Mail/News Gateway
| | Program.
Meltdown-BBS |UI |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/
| | meltdown-bbs.project.petkan
| | @spamgourmet.com
| | Fido: 2:350/5
| | Meltdown-BBS is an FTN <->
| | Web/PHP/MySQL BBS forum system.
MakeNL |U | http://hub2000.darktech.org/makenl
| | fidonet.hub2000 [at] gmail [dot] com
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| | Fido: 1:229/2000
| | FidoNet Nodelist Processor
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National BBS List |? | http://www.usbbs.org
Hispanic FIDO/BBS's |? | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/
(in Spanish only) | | (Extensive software & BBS Listings)
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File Archives:
http://archives.thebbs.org http://www.filegate.net
http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org http://www.juge.com
http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/ http://garbo.uwasa.fi
http://www.simtel.net http://wuarchive.wustl.edu
http://www.bbsfiles.com http://hobbes.nmsu.edu
Note: most also provide FTP access
(use ftp:// instead of http:// above)
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Please send corrections & additions to: Robert Couture, 1:229/2000
E-Mail: rpa4email (at) rogers (dot) com
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SPECIAL INTEREST
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Nodelist Stats
Input nodelist nodelist.363
size 659.7kb
date 2006-12-29
The nodelist has 5489 nodes in it
and a total of 7370 non-comment entries
including 6 zones
46 regions
332 hosts
376 hubs
admin overhead 760 ( 13.85 %)
and 653 private nodes
211 nodes down
257 nodes on hold
off line overhead 1121 ( 20.42 %)
Speed summary:
>9600 = 452 ( 8.23 %)
9600 = 4292 ( 78.19 %)
(HST = 82 or 1.91 %)
(CSP = 0 or 0.00 %)
(PEP = 1 or 0.02 %)
(MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
(HAY = 1 or 0.02 %)
(V32 = 2178 or 50.75 %)
(V32B = 128 or 2.98 %)
(V34 = 2957 or 68.90 %)
(V42 = 2467 or 57.48 %)
(V42B = 136 or 3.17 %)
2400 = 40 ( 0.73 %)
1200 = 5 ( 0.09 %)
300 = 700 ( 12.75 %)
ISDN = 383 ( 6.98 %)
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File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems
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XA Frontdoor <1.99b 1650
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
Xenia
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XB Binkleyterm 2.0 7
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 2
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XP Seadog 2
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XR Opus 1.03 25
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XW Fido >12M 217
Tabby
KittenMail
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 2267
Frontdoor 1.99b
Intermail 2.01
T-Mail
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None QMM 1319
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CrashMail capable = 1980 ( 36.07 %)
MailOnly nodes = 3056 ( 55.67 %)
Listed-only nodes = 450 ( 8.20 %)
Other = 3 ( 0.05 %)
[Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm]
[ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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